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RE: More atheist men than women?
July 8, 2015 at 11:06 am
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(July 8, 2015 at 11:02 am)Neimenovic Wrote: I was about to say 'objective morality, huh?', but you know what, forget it....
Haha, exactly! And they were absolutely objectively, morally wrong!
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RE: More atheist men than women?
July 8, 2015 at 12:16 pm
(July 6, 2015 at 12:21 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: I have noticed that the vast majority of the members here are men. On the other hand, the vast majority of the members in the Catholic forum I used to participate in are women.
Are men generally more prone to atheism, and women generally more prone to theism? If so, does anyone have any theories on why this is the case?
Thanks!
I think its just a matter of people "coming out" and participating in society as openly secular... its a fine line though, cause at the same time, atheism doesnt define who i am or make me do certain things over another.. i dont live my life saying, im an atheist, im an atheist, im an atheist.. i just live my life, or "thank you for your donation", "you're quite welcome, im an atheist"... so i guess for this forum and just life in geranl, people just arent vocal about it...
as the saying goes, you've definitely met atheists before... you just didnt know it...
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RE: More atheist men than women?
July 8, 2015 at 12:18 pm
(July 8, 2015 at 12:16 pm)QuarkDriven Wrote: (July 6, 2015 at 12:21 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: I have noticed that the vast majority of the members here are men. On the other hand, the vast majority of the members in the Catholic forum I used to participate in are women.
Are men generally more prone to atheism, and women generally more prone to theism? If so, does anyone have any theories on why this is the case?
Thanks!
I think its just a matter of people "coming out" and participating in society as openly secular... its a fine line though, cause at the same time, atheism doesnt define who i am or make me do certain things over another.. i dont live my life saying, im an atheist, im an atheist, im an atheist.. i just live my life, or "thank you for your donation", "you're quite welcome, im an atheist"... so i guess for this forum and just life in geranl, people just arent vocal about it...
as the saying goes, you've definitely met atheists before... you just didnt know it...
Very true.
"Of course, everyone will claim they respect someone who tries to speak the truth, but in reality, this is a rare quality. Most respect those who speak truths they agree with, and their respect for the speaking only extends as far as their realm of personal agreement. It is less common, almost to the point of becoming a saintly virtue, that someone truly respects and loves the truth seeker, even when their conclusions differ wildly."
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RE: More atheist men than women?
July 8, 2015 at 12:25 pm
(July 8, 2015 at 11:00 am)Catholic_Lady Wrote: Nothing in Church Doctrine has ever stated that women are lesser than men and deserving of less rights than men. Ever? Care to put money on that?
Quote: If that was the sentiment amongst Catholics back in the day, it was due to the culture of the times, not to Church teaching.
Yeah, I hear that type of rebuttal often. If I can respond with a question: in a feudal theocracy, what do you think the greatest driver of mores was?
Quote:EDIT TO ADD: btw, I just accepted your facebook friend request. Your son is adorable!
Indeed he is, I'm ridiculously proud. We brewed a good'un. As it happens, his initials are G.A.D.. he was going to have the middle name 'Oliver' until we spotted the acronym
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RE: More atheist men than women?
July 8, 2015 at 12:28 pm
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I incredibly rarely actually say I'm an atheist, but it is very different in England. I'd never just announce it unless it was relevant or I was asked.
The horns and tail do give me away though
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RE: More atheist men than women?
July 8, 2015 at 12:34 pm
(July 8, 2015 at 12:25 pm)Ben Davis Wrote: (July 8, 2015 at 11:00 am)Catholic_Lady Wrote: Nothing in Church Doctrine has ever stated that women are lesser than men and deserving of less rights than men. Ever? Care to put money on that?
Quote: If that was the sentiment amongst Catholics back in the day, it was due to the culture of the times, not to Church teaching.
Yeah, I hear that type of rebuttal often. If I can respond with a question: in a feudal theocracy, what do you think the greatest driver of mores was?
Quote:EDIT TO ADD: btw, I just accepted your facebook friend request. Your son is adorable!
Indeed he is, I'm ridiculously proud. We brewed a good'un. As it happens, his initials are G.A.D.. he was going to have the middle name 'Oliver' until we spotted the acronym
Church doctrine can't and hasn't changed. Just because particular practices may have been customary at particular time periods, does not mean those practices were under Church Doctrine.
I don't understand your question. What is mores?
Congrats on a beautiful little boy! LOL at the original initials.
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RE: More atheist men than women?
July 8, 2015 at 12:57 pm
(July 8, 2015 at 4:10 am)ignoramus Wrote: Pam fries fillet steak for the cat most nights while I get soup!
When one's love is greater for one than the other, it tends to show up in these kinds of things.
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RE: More atheist men than women?
July 8, 2015 at 2:12 pm
(July 8, 2015 at 12:28 pm)robvalue Wrote: I incredibly rarely actually say I'm an atheist, but it is very different in England. I'd never just announce it unless it was relevant or I was asked.
The horns and tail do give me away though
I don't use the word atheist very often, whenever someone asks me what I believe or if I believe my reply is always "I'm not convinced".
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RE: More atheist men than women?
July 8, 2015 at 4:24 pm
Honestly, I'd have to ask how anyone can even tell how many men vs. women there are on a forum because most forums don't reveal gender, you just have to guess of the vast majority of people who do not explicitly say what gender they are. So how do you even make such a determination about men vs. women?
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RE: More atheist men than women?
July 8, 2015 at 4:25 pm
(This post was last modified: July 8, 2015 at 4:26 pm by Dystopia.)
Well in AF there's a member pictures thread and some people reveal it in the introduction topic or in their profile. From my personal experience (which could be wrong) it is more common for women to put status as "undisclosed" than men
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