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    Thread: Refute a first cause which most people would call G-d AKA Deism
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(May 9, 2013 at 2:02 pm)Ryantology Wrote: (May 9, 2013 at 1:33 pm)xdrgnh Wrote: Because if it's not material or dependent upon space time and matter then it must not be natural. Natural by it's ve...
 xdrgnh Atheism 63 19840 May 9, 2013 at 2:09 pm
    Thread: Refute a first cause which most people would call G-d AKA Deism
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(May 9, 2013 at 1:55 pm)Violet Lilly Blossom Wrote: (May 9, 2013 at 1:40 pm)xdrgnh Wrote: What evidence? In mathematics you don't prove something using evidence. You prove it using logic and reaso...
 xdrgnh Atheism 63 19840 May 9, 2013 at 1:57 pm
    Thread: Refute a first cause which most people would call G-d AKA Deism
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(May 9, 2013 at 1:47 pm)Cthulhu Dreaming Wrote: (May 9, 2013 at 1:42 pm)xdrgnh Wrote: Science can disprove not prove. We disproved a eternal universe via experiment. Therefore if the universe is n...
 xdrgnh Atheism 63 19840 May 9, 2013 at 1:50 pm
    Thread: Refute a first cause which most people would call G-d AKA Deism
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(May 9, 2013 at 1:41 pm)Cthulhu Dreaming Wrote: (May 9, 2013 at 12:44 pm)xdrgnh Wrote: We know that the universe [...] came into existence at a point in time. Do we know this? Really? You treat ...
 xdrgnh Atheism 63 19840 May 9, 2013 at 1:42 pm
    Thread: Refute a first cause which most people would call G-d AKA Deism
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(May 9, 2013 at 1:36 pm)downbeatplumb Wrote: (May 9, 2013 at 1:33 pm)xdrgnh Wrote: Because if it's not material or dependent upon space time and matter then it must not be natural. Natural by it's...
 xdrgnh Atheism 63 19840 May 9, 2013 at 1:40 pm
    Thread: Refute a first cause which most people would call G-d AKA Deism
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(May 9, 2013 at 1:29 pm)Ryantology Wrote: (May 9, 2013 at 12:19 pm)xdrgnh Wrote: How G-d or even the Theist G-d have intelligence if intelligence is something that is characteristic of living orga...
 xdrgnh Atheism 63 19840 May 9, 2013 at 1:33 pm
    Thread: Refute a first cause which most people would call G-d AKA Deism
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(May 9, 2013 at 12:32 pm)Simon Moon Wrote: (May 8, 2013 at 8:43 pm)xdrgnh Wrote: I'm posting in the Atheist section because a lot of people say Deism has more in common with Atheism then it does w...
 xdrgnh Atheism 63 19840 May 9, 2013 at 12:44 pm
    Thread: Refute a first cause which most people would call G-d AKA Deism
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(May 9, 2013 at 12:15 pm)Ryantology Wrote: I see no reason to attach the title 'God' to anything less than an intelligent designer. How G-d or even the Theist G-d have intelligence if intelligence i...
 xdrgnh Atheism 63 19840 May 9, 2013 at 12:19 pm
    Thread: Refute a first cause which most people would call G-d AKA Deism
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Technology can never detect something that is not composed of space time and matter because technology can only be composed of space time and matter. Zeus can be refuted because the greek myth's make ...
 xdrgnh Atheism 63 19840 May 9, 2013 at 12:05 pm
    Thread: Refute a first cause which most people would call G-d AKA Deism
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How can technology detect something that is not time space or matter if that is all that exists in the universe? If the technology is made in our universe and our building materials is space time and...
 xdrgnh Atheism 63 19840 May 9, 2013 at 12:20 am
    Thread: Refute a first cause which most people would call G-d AKA Deism
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What is not composed of space time and matter is not natural. Therefore if it's not natural it's supernatural.
 xdrgnh Atheism 63 19840 May 8, 2013 at 11:36 pm
    Thread: Refute a first cause which most people would call G-d AKA Deism
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(May 8, 2013 at 9:26 pm)Esquilax Wrote: (May 8, 2013 at 8:43 pm)xdrgnh Wrote: 5. This thing that must be the cause of the universe existence which is not composed of matter or spacetime is commonl...
 xdrgnh Atheism 63 19840 May 8, 2013 at 9:38 pm
    Thread: Refute a first cause which most people would call G-d AKA Deism
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You can't have scientific evidence for G-d because he is not composed of space time or matter the exact things that physics deals with. However you can make logical arguments to show that something be...
 xdrgnh Atheism 63 19840 May 8, 2013 at 9:20 pm
    Thread: Refute a first cause which most people would call G-d AKA Deism
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(May 8, 2013 at 9:07 pm)Rayaan Wrote: (May 8, 2013 at 8:43 pm)xdrgnh Wrote: 1. Everything in our natural world AKA universe is either matter or space time. ... or energy. Energy is just a name we ...
 xdrgnh Atheism 63 19840 May 8, 2013 at 9:10 pm
    Thread: Refute a first cause which most people would call G-d AKA Deism
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By step 2 you mean "2. Nothing in our universe can be created or destroyed. (I'm aware of quantum fluctuation and the creation of virtual particles but I do not count that as creation because the new ...
 xdrgnh Atheism 63 19840 May 8, 2013 at 9:04 pm
    Thread: Refute a first cause which most people would call G-d AKA Deism
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I'm posting in the Atheist section because a lot of people say Deism has more in common with Atheism then it does with Theism. I shall now proceed to make a simple argument for a Deist G-d. 1. Every...
 xdrgnh Atheism 63 19840 May 8, 2013 at 8:43 pm