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Thread: Non-religious Theism
Post: RE: Non-religious Theism
| Whateverist wrote:
Well, so you keep saying. How often must you repeat the incantation to remain convinced I wonder? (No insult intended. Think of it as good natured ribbing.)
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April 24, 2014 at 10:05 am |
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Thread: Non-religious Theism
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Human beings also create without dictatorial conscious control. It isn't necessary to decide on a goal and then turn the creative process into merely a struggle to impose that goal on the ... |
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April 24, 2014 at 7:19 am |
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Thread: Non-religious Theism
Post: RE: Non-religious Theism
| (April 23, 2014 at 12:22 am)whateverist Wrote: (April 22, 2014 at 11:18 pm)Metalogos Wrote: As far as my claim that there is wisdom and order in the universe, I am speaking of the myriad manifesta... |
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April 24, 2014 at 2:23 am |
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Thread: Non-religious Theism
Post: RE: Non-religious Theism
| (April 22, 2014 at 11:20 am)Cato Wrote: [quote='Metalogos' pid='655152' dateline='1398166250']
Not all agents are equal nor are they all sentient beings but considering that the universe displays wi... |
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April 22, 2014 at 11:18 pm |
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Thread: Can anyone provide an argument for a necessary being?
Post: RE: Can anyone provide an argument for a necessary...
| Whateverist wrote--I will note that you have only responded to the part of my post to which you took offense. I guess you don't want to defend your rush to judgment. You would like to characterize y... |
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April 22, 2014 at 10:13 pm |
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Thread: Can anyone provide an argument for a necessary being?
Post: RE: Can anyone provide an argument for a necessary...
| What you are asking is "if it's not god, then what is it?" But if you have no evidence for god, then it's dishonest to assume that god should be the default explanation for questions of the origins o... |
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April 22, 2014 at 9:13 am |
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Thread: Can anyone provide an argument for a necessary being?
Post: RE: Can anyone provide an argument for a necessary...
| (April 22, 2014 at 7:19 am)Cato Wrote: (April 21, 2014 at 11:10 pm)Metalogos Wrote: The latter could not accept that all things have been in motion from eternity and so cognized an agent for the i... |
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April 22, 2014 at 7:52 am |
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Thread: Non-religious Theism
Post: RE: Non-religious Theism
| (April 21, 2014 at 9:17 pm)Faith No More Wrote: I find several things wrong with the prime mover argument.
Firstly, as someone that subscribes to philosophical skepticism, I think pure reasoning wi... |
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April 22, 2014 at 7:30 am |
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Thread: Can anyone provide an argument for a necessary being?
Post: RE: Can anyone provide an argument for a necessary...
| Dear Ryan, you wrote:
I don't necessary think it is necessary for a first cause to exist, and even if there was, adding a creator agent not only doesn't actually answer the question, it just raises th... |
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April 21, 2014 at 11:10 pm |
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Thread: Can anyone provide an argument for a necessary being?
Post: RE: Can anyone provide an argument for a necessary...
| If the universe is made of eternal matter, and it may well be, that still does not deal with the problem of how it all came to be set into motion. I am quite comfortable with a panetheistic explanatio... |
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April 21, 2014 at 9:08 pm |
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Thread: Non-religious Theism
Post: RE: Non-religious Theism
| When we ask questions about the world around us and attempt to answer them, most times we are limited by our knowledge of the workings of things and their true nature. We conjecture, we create hypothe... |
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April 21, 2014 at 7:48 pm |
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Thread: Can anyone provide an argument for a necessary being?
Post: RE: Can anyone provide an argument for a necessary...
| If we can all agree that everything in the known universe does indeed have a beginning and an end, then we can rule out the idea that things can go on existing ad infinitum and also that the universe ... |
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April 21, 2014 at 7:20 pm |
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Thread: Can anyone provide an argument for a necessary being?
Post: RE: Can anyone provide an argument for a necessary...
| Fifth Element-"Let's focus on this for a second ...
Your statement is true within (inside of) natural world, World (or Universe, be that one only or Multiverse) can just exist, forever and ever, easil... |
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April 21, 2014 at 10:52 am |
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Thread: Non-religious Theism
Post: RE: Non-religious Theism
| Cato- "My philosophical disagreements with the prime mover argument is that it doesn't explain anything, adds an entity that isn't necessarily needed, and raises more questions. Even if I assume a pri... |
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April 21, 2014 at 10:33 am |
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Thread: The Idea of a God Is Not So Crazy
Post: RE: The Idea of a God Is Not So Crazy
| (April 21, 2014 at 8:23 am)whateverist Wrote: (April 20, 2014 at 7:51 pm)Metalogos Wrote: Yes, it does seem that many atheist are satisfied in letting the theists do all the heavy lifting and smug... |
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April 21, 2014 at 9:44 am |
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Thread: The Idea of a God Is Not So Crazy
Post: RE: The Idea of a God Is Not So Crazy
| Dear Whateverist,
You may be right in saying that you know of no atheistic manual or argument that tries to account for the existence or the nature of the cosmos or for existence itself. Yes, it do... |
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April 20, 2014 at 7:51 pm |
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Thread: The Idea of a God Is Not So Crazy
Post: RE: The Idea of a God Is Not So Crazy
| (April 20, 2014 at 12:23 pm)Wyrd of Gawd Wrote: (April 20, 2014 at 7:28 am)Metalogos Wrote: To the person who states he is an atheist but then says that he finds the idea of a god or God acceptabl... |
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April 20, 2014 at 7:34 pm |
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Thread: Non-religious Theism
Post: Non-religious Theism
| It appears to me that there are quite a few individuals on this site and in the larger world that might fall into the category that I would identify as non-religious theism. I think that one comes to ... |
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April 20, 2014 at 8:31 am |
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Thread: The Idea of a God Is Not So Crazy
Post: RE: The Idea of a God Is Not So Crazy
| To the person who states he is an atheist but then says that he finds the idea of a god or God acceptable, I would simply say that you have to change your stated definition for yourself from atheist t... |
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April 20, 2014 at 7:28 am |
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Thread: Can anyone provide an argument for a necessary being?
Post: RE: Can anyone provide an argument for a necessary...
| I guess I would answer your question with the Prime Mover or Unmoved Mover argument that was formalized by Aristotle in Book 12 of his Metaphysics and later used by Thomas Aquinas in his famous Five... |
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