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RE: Americans: Bernie Sanders or Hilary Clinton
September 18, 2015 at 9:17 pm
(September 18, 2015 at 9:15 pm)Chad32 Wrote: (September 18, 2015 at 9:06 pm)Pyrrho Wrote: I like Bernie Sanders much more than Clinton. Both because of his positions, and because he seems far, far more honest. Still, he is a bit to the right of me, and I would prefer someone truly liberal.
We need someone like Bernie to start pulling the establishment to the left before we get real liberals in office.
I thought Bernie was a liberal. What do you consider "real" liberalism?
"Of course, everyone will claim they respect someone who tries to speak the truth, but in reality, this is a rare quality. Most respect those who speak truths they agree with, and their respect for the speaking only extends as far as their realm of personal agreement. It is less common, almost to the point of becoming a saintly virtue, that someone truly respects and loves the truth seeker, even when their conclusions differ wildly."
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RE: Americans: Bernie Sanders or Hilary Clinton
September 18, 2015 at 9:46 pm
Republicans have pulled the views so far to the right that the most liberal people would be considered centrists in other countries. I'm not sure what a real extreme liberal would look like.
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RE: Americans: Bernie Sanders or Hilary Clinton
September 18, 2015 at 9:51 pm
(September 18, 2015 at 9:17 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: (September 18, 2015 at 9:15 pm)Chad32 Wrote: We need someone like Bernie to start pulling the establishment to the left before we get real liberals in office.
I thought Bernie was a liberal. What do you consider "real" liberalism?
I'm a liberal....but I'm not running for anything.
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RE: Americans: Bernie Sanders or Hilary Clinton
September 18, 2015 at 9:52 pm
Min might make a mean mod president
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RE: Americans: Bernie Sanders or Hilary Clinton
September 18, 2015 at 9:58 pm
(September 18, 2015 at 9:46 pm)Chad32 Wrote: Republicans have pulled the views so far to the right that the most liberal people would be considered centrists in other countries. I'm not sure what a real extreme liberal would look like.
What I meant was, what kind of policies/ideals would make someone a "real liberal" that people like Bernie don't have?
"Of course, everyone will claim they respect someone who tries to speak the truth, but in reality, this is a rare quality. Most respect those who speak truths they agree with, and their respect for the speaking only extends as far as their realm of personal agreement. It is less common, almost to the point of becoming a saintly virtue, that someone truly respects and loves the truth seeker, even when their conclusions differ wildly."
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RE: Americans: Bernie Sanders or Hilary Clinton
September 18, 2015 at 10:20 pm
I'm not sure. I haven't been very interested in politics until recently. I guess the opposite of Mike Huckabee. Maybe a pure socialist?
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RE: Americans: Bernie Sanders or Hilary Clinton
September 18, 2015 at 10:24 pm
(September 18, 2015 at 9:58 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: (September 18, 2015 at 9:46 pm)Chad32 Wrote: Republicans have pulled the views so far to the right that the most liberal people would be considered centrists in other countries. I'm not sure what a real extreme liberal would look like.
What I meant was, what kind of policies/ideals would make someone a "real liberal" that people like Bernie don't have?
Here you go, dear.
Bernie's close enough for me.
https://berniesanders.com/issues/
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RE: Americans: Bernie Sanders or Hilary Clinton
September 19, 2015 at 1:59 am
I will never cast a vote for Hillary Clinton. I will have no problem casting a vote for Sanders if I'm given the opportunity.
Since we're discussing votes, there is one person in the GOP clown car that I would actually consider voting for. There is plenty not to like, but I would vote for John Kasich over Clinton. He doesn't have a hope in hell of getting the nomination, but he's the only person in the GOP field that resembles a statesman.
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RE: Americans: Bernie Sanders or Hilary Clinton
September 19, 2015 at 2:01 am
Bernie makes me happy. But not as happy as any one of the republicans would make me sad, very, very sad. I wonder how many more years it would take to flush the entire middle class down the toilet under republican leadership.
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RE: Americans: Bernie Sanders or Hilary Clinton
September 19, 2015 at 2:04 am
The Republican party, of which real Republicans of the past would be ashamed, truly needs to either die or revert back to what it once was.
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