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RE: Dr. Donald Whitaker - Ex Atheist
October 30, 2015 at 1:51 pm
(October 27, 2015 at 9:54 pm)Beccs Wrote: I should get a video made called, "Dr. R.J. Anderson's deconversion"
“I meant," said Ipslore bitterly, "what is there in this world that truly makes living worthwhile?"
Death thought about it.
CATS, he said eventually. CATS ARE NICE.”
YES!
I reject your reality and substitute my own!
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RE: Dr. Donald Whitaker - Ex Atheist
October 30, 2015 at 2:00 pm
(October 28, 2015 at 4:06 pm)Jörmungandr Wrote: (October 28, 2015 at 2:35 pm)sinnerdaniel94 Wrote: souls are immaterial so you can't put them in a piggy bank. I'm talking about saving souls to Christ so that they don't have to go to hell.
and no
If souls are immaterial, what do they have to fear about going to hell? I don't think you thought this through.
Immaterial. No nerve endings. No pain.
Unless, as was posted in another thread, gawd actually creates a physical form for deceased unbelievers for the specific purpose of making them feel pain. Since Jehovah/Yahweh of the OT is undeniably the worst monster ever described in human literature, that evil action would at least be true to his character.
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RE: Dr. Donald Whitaker - Ex Atheist
October 30, 2015 at 4:16 pm
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(October 30, 2015 at 1:45 pm)downbeatplumb Wrote: (October 30, 2015 at 1:17 pm)sinnerdaniel94 Wrote: Your trust will be broken and your feelings will be hurt when someone tells you you're wrong and you need help. The cross is offensive but at the same time it is good news and one type of way I love someone is to tell them about Jesus whether or not they believe or not. I apologize if I was rude in any way. I still stand in my faith in Jesus.
As long as it dosen't influence anything in your life that actually demands critical thinking, knock yourself out. If it wasn't for believers like you I'd have a lot less laughs.
I laugh out loud all the time at some of your comments
its funny how each side thinks the other is preposterous
(October 30, 2015 at 2:00 pm)drfuzzy Wrote: (October 28, 2015 at 4:06 pm)Jörmungandr Wrote: If souls are immaterial, what do they have to fear about going to hell? I don't think you thought this through.
Immaterial. No nerve endings. No pain.
Unless, as was posted in another thread, gawd actually creates a physical form for deceased unbelievers for the specific purpose of making them feel pain. Since Jehovah/Yahweh of the OT is undeniably the worst monster ever described in human literature, that evil action would at least be true to his character.
your assuming a soul can't experience pain because there are no nerve endings, but the bible teaches that even without your flesh you can think and feel
God is the opposite of from what you are -- good
(October 28, 2015 at 3:42 pm)Skeletor Wrote: (October 28, 2015 at 3:07 pm)sinnerdaniel94 Wrote: eye witnesses claiming to see Jesus after he was killed alive.
around 500 plus the apostles and paul
odds of 500 people going crazy all at once is improbable
Precisely who are these 500 witnesses again?
You do realize that the fact that a book claims that there were 500 witnesses does not make it so, yes? does it make it false then>?
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RE: Dr. Donald Whitaker - Ex Atheist
October 30, 2015 at 4:20 pm
(October 30, 2015 at 4:16 pm)sinnerdaniel94 Wrote: (October 30, 2015 at 1:45 pm)downbeatplumb Wrote: As long as it dosen't influence anything in your life that actually demands critical thinking, knock yourself out. If it wasn't for believers like you I'd have a lot less laughs.
I laugh out loud all the time at some of your comments
its funny how each side thinks the other is preposterous
(October 30, 2015 at 2:00 pm)drfuzzy Wrote: Immaterial. No nerve endings. No pain.
Unless, as was posted in another thread, gawd actually creates a physical form for deceased unbelievers for the specific purpose of making them feel pain. Since Jehovah/Yahweh of the OT is undeniably the worst monster ever described in human literature, that evil action would at least be true to his character.
your assuming a soul can't experience pain because there are no nerve endings, but the bible teaches that even without your flesh you can think and feel
God is the opposite of from what you are -- good
(October 28, 2015 at 3:42 pm)Skeletor Wrote: Precisely who are these 500 witnesses again?
You do realize that the fact that a book claims that there were 500 witnesses does not make it so, yes? does it make it false then>?
Ok my estimate for your age has just plummeted. Are you a teenager yet?
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RE: Dr. Donald Whitaker - Ex Atheist
October 30, 2015 at 4:23 pm
(October 30, 2015 at 4:20 pm)downbeatplumb Wrote: (October 30, 2015 at 4:16 pm)sinnerdaniel94 Wrote: I laugh out loud all the time at some of your comments
its funny how each side thinks the other is preposterous
your assuming a soul can't experience pain because there are no nerve endings, but the bible teaches that even without your flesh you can think and feel
God is the opposite of from what you are -- good
does it make it false then>?
Ok my estimate for your age has just plummeted. Are you a teenager yet? there are plenty of teens smarter than you
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RE: Dr. Donald Whitaker - Ex Atheist
October 30, 2015 at 4:29 pm
(October 27, 2015 at 9:50 pm)sinnerdaniel94 Wrote: https://youtu.be/CVmNf-KtVs0
I found that this was a very inspiring testimony. Whether you believe him or not, it is worth watching!
Jesus said,
"I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me." John 14:6
"Fear not; I am the first and the last: I am he that liveth, and was dead; and, behold, I am alive for evermore, Amen; and have the keys of hell and death." Revelation 1:17-18
Let me know what you think about Dr. Whitaker's conversion. I have a testimony right here at AF about why I left the Christian religion, and some people find it very inspiring. Everybody has a fucking testimony. They're a dime a dozen.
I'm just as inspired by your testimony as you are by mine.
So there.
The god who allows children to be raped out of respect for the free will choice of the rapist, but punishes gay men for engaging in mutually consensual sex couldn't possibly be responsible for an intelligently designed universe.
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RE: Dr. Donald Whitaker - Ex Atheist
October 30, 2015 at 4:29 pm
It may be just me, but I find this Whittaker MUCH more interesting than yours:
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RE: Dr. Donald Whitaker - Ex Atheist
October 30, 2015 at 4:42 pm
Dammit, Danny boy, you broke my heart. You said you were leaving. You're still here, still acting like a bratty 7-year-old.
sinnerdaniel to drfuzzy: "God is the opposite of from what you are -- good"
sinnerdaniel to downbeatplumb: "there are plenty of teens smarter than you"
The troll has resorted to childish name calling, because he can't comprehend logic.
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RE: Dr. Donald Whitaker - Ex Atheist
October 30, 2015 at 4:45 pm
(October 30, 2015 at 4:42 pm)drfuzzy Wrote: Dammit, Danny boy, you broke my heart. You said you were leaving. You're still here, still acting like a bratty 7-year-old.
sinnerdaniel to drfuzzy: "God is the opposite of from what you are -- good"
sinnerdaniel to downbeatplumb: "there are plenty of teens smarter than you"
The troll has resorted to childish name calling, because he can't comprehend logic.
oh sorry I just meant with you
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RE: Dr. Donald Whitaker - Ex Atheist
October 30, 2015 at 4:47 pm
(October 30, 2015 at 4:45 pm)sinnerdaniel94 Wrote: (October 30, 2015 at 4:42 pm)drfuzzy Wrote: Dammit, Danny boy, you broke my heart. You said you were leaving. You're still here, still acting like a bratty 7-year-old.
sinnerdaniel to drfuzzy: "God is the opposite of from what you are -- good"
sinnerdaniel to downbeatplumb: "there are plenty of teens smarter than you"
The troll has resorted to childish name calling, because he can't comprehend logic.
oh sorry I just meant with you
Oh, that makes it all better then. You're being perfectly mature and respectful, you're giving us well-thought-out, coherent debate from useful scientific sources . . . you just hate only me.  My bad.
Wrong, troll. You hate everyone who doesn't agree with you. Grow up.
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