To take or not to take Syrian refugees

[Cato]

What sickens me is to see some devout Christians being so against it.

Evangelicals believe in American Jesus, not the dude in the gospels that gave The Sermon on the Mount. The readings during mass and subsequent homily are designed to consider and provide modern interpretations to complete and intact passages in the Bible. Evangelical 'pastors' play hopscotch through the Bible extracting unlinked sentences and fragments to tell whatever story they want.

[Shining_Finger]

Simply the general regulations imposed on general refugees is enough of a restriction for me. That is the only reason I said with restrictions.
You have to admit, the Right Wing really is fueling ISIS membership. Oh, we should only take CHRISTIAN Syrians. Let's explicitly disregard civilian lives to fight ISIS. Etc etc etc, yadda yadda yadda.
The Right Wing created the situation of the Refugee crisis, so it is only suiting that they call out the Democrats for doing what would be morally right in their situation.
Meh. Bigots will be Bigots.

[Minimalist]

A legal issue that exists due a pseudo-objective smug sense of morality that is imposed on western nations for no particular reason other than pity and making people feel guilty. Is there any reason I should care about the UN or consider them a respectable institution in the international paradigm, other than the fact that it is ruled by countries with more power?

No it was made in the wake of the MS St. Louis tragedy, asshole.

If you really don't think it's important, then withdraw from the protocol. You do realise that your asshole country is the only first world State that has signed the protocol but not the convention?

Just one of many we haven't signed.  And when we do sign them, we weasel out of them.

http://www.cfr.org/international-law/uni...ons/p11485

Writing in a January 2002 memo to President Bush, then White House Counsel Alberto Gonzales claimed clauses of the conventions referring to the detention and interrogation of enemy combatants were “obsolete.”

See how easy that is, Danny?

[Whateverist]

I want to help but I don't want to take in any refuges who will come in and threaten people for expressing their freedom of speech in whatever way they like .. yes including cartoons of the prophet. I am hugely repulsed by so much of Islam and the threat the way it is practiced poses to the value we place on tolerance.

[Mermaid]

Just the Christian ones.

Kidding. I would actually be open to hosting some of them in my house. They have been through so much hell. The assholes that attacked Paris are exactly what they are running from.

[ignoramus]

Your "rich European cultures" have changed over centuries.

Refusing to help out your fellow humans because it might come at the expense of changing your habits, rituals, or cultural identity in some way is so indescribably racist and inhuman, I can't even begin to believe I've read that reasoning in this thread.

Isn't that global communism?

[Jackalope]

Your "rich European cultures" have changed over centuries.

Refusing to help out your fellow humans because it might come at the expense of changing your habits, rituals, or cultural identity in some way is so indescribably racist and inhuman, I can't even begin to believe I've read that reasoning in this thread.

Isn't that global communism?

No. It's humanism.

[Whateverist]

I knew it! Fucking humans.

[ignoramus]

Cultural identity is all we have.
I can guarantee you that none of these refugees will change or deny their cultural identity.
Why would they want to. It's who we are, it's what we are.

You can never remove our identity and survival instincts from our DNA.
Why did the empire assimilate all the colonies? To expand "their" culture and identity.
Just saying.

[Aractus]

He's not American.

Who's the asshole now, asshole?

My bad, in that case his country would need to withdraw from the protocol AND the convention. It is typically the yanks who go on about how terrible the UN is and not the Europeans.

Just one of many we haven't signed.  And when we do sign them, we weasel out of them.

http://www.cfr.org/international-law/uni...ons/p11485

Writing in a January 2002 memo to President Bush, then White House Counsel Alberto Gonzales claimed clauses of the conventions referring to the detention and interrogation of enemy combatants were “obsolete.”

See how easy that is, Danny?

Yes, yes I know, which is exactly why I label your country an asshole State, but you already knew that.