Review so far of the Romans study

[Minimalist]

That in a nut shell is the book of Romans, are their any questions?

Nuts and nut shells.  Good combo.

[KevinM1]

You're a fucking idiot.

how so?

Because neither Rocket's time in prison nor his sexuality have anything to do with... well, anything.  You're trying to hurt him because he poked fun at your fervor - which no one else shared - in making and continuing these threads.  And rather than:

1. Acting according to your messiah's teaching and turning the other cheek

or

2. Having the wit to actually spar with him

You, instead, reach for the low hanging fruit.  "Herp, derp, you went to prison!  You must be gay because you referenced the realities of your experiences!"  As though being gay (not that he is... I take him at his word because I have no reason not to) is actually some kind of problem or deficiency.

If you want to convince us of your god's grace, howabout actually acting according to his teachings?  Other theists here do it, and are respected for it.

[Drich]

how so?

Because neither Rocket's time in prison nor his sexuality have anything to do with... well, anything.  You're trying to hurt him because he poked fun at your fervor - which no one else shared - in making and continuing these threads.  And rather than:

1. Acting according to your messiah's teaching and turning the other cheek

or

2. Having the wit to actually spar with him

You, instead, reach for the low hanging fruit.  "Herp, derp, you went to prison!  You must be gay because you referenced the realities of your experiences!"  As though being gay (not that he is... I take him at his word because I have no reason not to) is actually some kind of problem or deficiency.

If you want to convince us of your god's grace, howabout actually acting according to his teachings?  Other theists here do it, and are respected for it.

first of all youre right.

i should have turned the other cheek, If I took offense. but I do not. Nothing 'Rocky' has said is any different that what any of you have done at one point or another. you and I have had words in the past I'm sure, but at the same time I do not hold them against you nor anyone else, because to me it's all part of my job/work here. (so in essence that is turning the other cheek) This back and fourth is just apart of the process.

2)how is it do you think I am not sparing with him now?

If his only comments are about forcing himself on me sexually or asking for repeated sexual favors, and can't or won't speak on anything topically. How else am I to respond? I have given him many oppertunities to speak topically. Go back and look at all the things we have discussed, and honestly tell me where he has wanted to discuss anything beside gay sex, or forcing himself on me? (since he pulled his jail card and I did not respect his experience the way he wanted me too.)

Again, my experiences here get crapped on by everyone, and never have I stalked you all from thread to thread nor trolled on any level for not holding or respecting the parts of my life that I hold dear. (which is what he is technically doing if you are in the mood to rebuke someone for going after low hanging fruit.)
That's all this is, just a poorly excuted attempt to try and throw some 'turn the other cheek' at me. But, again their is nothing to turn, because what has been done I do not consider a strike. This is just apart of the ministering process that school yard bullies go through when they've been bested too many times.

Now I could have just as easily hit the report button, but I see no reason to do so. all I see is someone who got butt hurt when he couldn't hang in the conversation and was made to look the fool when he and dry sand teamed up. I see, someone who wants to shock and disturb me by repeatedly hitting the stereotypical Christian taboo button of gay sex.. (which I could honestly give two squirts about) Unfortunatly I can not just shake the dust from my feet and leave without leaving everyone. So I say fine. then lets take the gloves off and see which one of us stands up to being hit in a perceived 'soft spot.' which is apparently calling each other gay till one gets tired of saying 'nut-uh' (his rules not mine)

All the 'heavy atheist hitters' have gone though this process in some form or another. At some point Rocky see this is all either pointless, because he will eventually test and find my limits, meaning their are certain things I will not do or say/he figure out kinda what I'm about, and pick and choose topics to be apart of/we have a mutual respect. (if he's as smart as he thinks he is) -Or He'll get more butt hurt and just 'flame out' (gay pun intended) or settle in like minnie and just randomly offer up statlor/waldorf type of commentary


But again, and Like I told him. when ever he gets tired of all claiming to be straight and asking me for gay sexual acts, we can pick up where we left off or we can move on to a different topic and i will never give any of this a second thought. But until then if he needs to strut and puff himself up as if he were the big chicken in the yard, then we can do that too.

[Drich]

That in a nut shell is the book of Romans, are their any questions?

Nuts and nut shells.  Good combo.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B0neB1b29l8

[TheRocketSurgeon]

Still with the "forcing" gay sex on you, rather than taking pity and letting you suck the dick I know you really want a taste of?

See? I try to be nice and all you do is turn it around on me and try to hurt me with it. Never did or would I play games with the act of rape, even to make a point. That's what makes you a douchebag, and me just having a little bit of harmless fun with your religious fanaticism.

In other words, "the Christer dost protest too much, methinks". I'm deeply concerned about your rape fantasies, pal. I'd recommend talking to a therapist, or at least going to a BDSM conference and getting to understand why you hear someone tell you they'll let you suck their dick, as a question ("would you like to?" "How about one?"), and instead in your mind it becomes forcible. Tsk tsk.

I'll share a little bit more. There was one, and only one, time that anyone in prison dared to lay a hand on me, and yes, it was for that reason. He didn't know I'm ex-military, or that I've trained in martial arts since I was five. When he tried to drag me into a cell, I hurt him so badly that he had to be long-term hospitalized, with broken bones in his arm and his skull split against a railing, and I was taken to the county jail and charged with first degree assault (essentially, attempted manslaughter), though the charges were dropped the next day because the DA knew he was a serial rapist. I still spend weeks in the Hole over the attack, even though everyone in the dayroom, including the guard, saw that I was only defending myself-- the system Does Not Care™. After that, no one even so much as propositioned me, even though I got into fights for other reasons, as is common when you confine a couple of thousand Alpha Males in a small space for years. Some really big SoB's came at me, but I only really got hurt one time in nine years (by a Mexican guy smaller than me, with fists that hit like flying bricks). Them's the facts, whether you choose to believe it or not. The idea that a little shit like you can sit here with impunity and imply that I was raped should be hilarious to me.

However, I have had to sit at night in my cell, after lockdown, and listen to the sound of other people who did not have the advantage of my combat training or my legal knowledge (which made me useful to the "shot callers" who ran the gangs, and therefore untouchable), being raped in those locked cells. There's nothing funny about it, and never a point where it's okay to make that kind of joke. That's why I think you're almost as big a scumbag as the rapists who did those terrible acts, for turning what was essentially a drawn-out "blow me!" joke into a rape reference, and worse, an assertion that the only reason I would have brought up the topic of gay sex is because you think just going to prison and not being homophobic means somehow that I was raped, myself. You do a disservice to a real crime and a real epidemic, in addition to your Christian homophobia.

You fucking scumbag. And self-righteous, to boot. Amazing, the power of religious delusion.

[Drich]

Still with the "forcing" gay sex on you, rather than taking pity and letting you suck the dick I know you really want a taste of?

See? I try to be nice and all you do is turn it around on me and try to hurt me with it. Never did or would I play games with the act of rape, even to make a point. That's what makes you a douchebag, and me just having a little bit of harmless fun with your religious fanaticism.

In other words, "the Christer dost protest too much, methinks". I'm deeply concerned about your rape fantasies, pal. I'd recommend talking to a therapist, or at least going to a BDSM conference and getting to understand why you hear someone tell you they'll let you suck their dick, as a question ("would you like to?" "How about one?"), and instead in your mind it becomes forcible. Tsk tsk.

I'll share a little bit more. There was one, and only one, time that anyone in prison dared to lay a hand on me, and yes, it was for that reason. He didn't know I'm ex-military, or that I've trained in martial arts since I was five. When he tried to drag me into a cell, I hurt him so badly that he had to be long-term hospitalized, with broken bones in his arm and his skull split against a railing, and I was taken to the county jail and charged with first degree assault (essentially, attempted manslaughter), though the charges were dropped the next day because the DA knew he was a serial rapist. I still spend weeks in the Hole over the attack, even though everyone in the dayroom, including the guard, saw that I was only defending myself-- the system Does Not Care™. After that, no one even so much as propositioned me, even though I got into fights for other reasons, as is common when you confine a couple of thousand Alpha Males in a small space for years. Some really big SoB's came at me, but I only really got hurt one time in nine years (by a Mexican guy smaller than me, with fists that hit like flying bricks). Them's the facts, whether you choose to believe it or not. The idea that a little shit like you can sit here with impunity and imply that I was raped should be hilarious to me.

However, I have had to sit at night in my cell, after lockdown, and listen to the sound of other people who did not have the advantage of my combat training or my legal knowledge (which made me useful to the "shot callers" who ran the gangs, and therefore untouchable), being raped in those locked cells. There's nothing funny about it, and never a point where it's okay to make that kind of joke. That's why I think you're almost as big a scumbag as the rapists who did those terrible acts, for turning what was essentially a drawn-out "blow me!" joke into a rape reference, and worse, an assertion that the only reason I would have brought up the topic of gay sex is because you think just going to prison and not being homophobic means somehow that I was raped, myself. You do a disservice to a real crime and a real epidemic, in addition to your Christian homophobia.

You fucking scumbag. And self-righteous, to boot. Amazing, the power of religious delusion.

Look sport, Your not in prison anymore, right?

Yet you seem to still feel like you have to be the alpha. I say that because just look at your last post and all you feel like you have to prove. look at how you react when challenged or perceive a threat. At what point do you turn the other cheek? Never? The only people who can't Ever turn the other cheek are those in prison.. Which you have been released from right? Yet here we are what 6 + weeks past the point where I initially slighted you? 2 weeks after you came out of the blue and started asking for homosexual favors? All because I suggested you might have some prison form of PTSD?

Do you not understand the term? It is not a term used to baseless insult someone. If you can not let something like this EVER go then how are your actions not related to a prison trauma?

Again look at your story look at what you had to do to live the way you wanted to live... How can you not be affected by that? Now look at what your doing, when you troll and flame taking your anger from one thread to the next. How is stalking me Not a direct result of the person who you had to become in prison to survive?

But, again are you still in prison? Yet you retain apart of that person who very much is... That my friend is a manfestation of post traumatic stress disorder.

Unless you were a closeted gay/Ass hole who held a grudge for way way too long, before you went to jail.

[TheRocketSurgeon]

Look sport, Your not in prison anymore, right?

Yet you seem to still feel like you have to be the alpha. I say that because just look at your last post and all you feel like you have to prove. look at how you react when challenged or perceive a threat. At what point do you turn the other cheek? Never? The only people who can't Ever turn the other cheek are those in prison.. Which you have been released from right? Yet here we are what 6 + weeks past the point where I initially slighted you? 2 weeks after you came out of the blue and started asking for homosexual favors? All because I suggested you might have some prison form of PTSD?

Do you not understand the term? It is not a term used to baseless insult someone. If you can not let something like this EVER go then how are your actions not related to a prison trauma?

Again look at your story look at what you had to do to live the way you wanted to live... How can you not be affected by that? Now look at what your doing, when you troll and flame taking your anger from one thread to the next. How is stalking me Not a direct result of the person who you had to become in prison to survive?

But, again are you still in prison? Yet you retain apart of that person who very much is... That my friend is a manfestation of post traumatic stress disorder.

Unless you were a closeted gay/Ass hole who held a grudge for way way too long, before you went to jail.

Look, Scumbag, I'm not only not in prison anymore, I'm not a felon anymore. So fuck off with your implications. You have no understanding whatsoever, but it clearly doesn't stop you from flapping your cocksucker.

I would not have let it go that a person uses rape as a rhetorical device (or worse, a veiled slur) even before I went to prison. What you said was just plain wrong, verging on evil. That doesn't make me "holding a grudge" of some kind, other than disliking you for what you did... it's simply an inexcusable thing that you have done, and the fact that you are perfectly okay with making such a reference, even trying to turn the blame back upon me, tells me you likely have some form of sociopathy. I've seen plenty of those in the past decade. You have no excuse for taking this to the places you have taken it, and it is why I will continue to refer to you, simply, as "scumbag". Don't thank me... you've earned it!

And what the hell is "from one thread to the next"? I read through every thread on this forum, and I comment whenever I feel it's applicable. You're not special... certainly not special enough to "stalk". Get over yourself. Your derisive and abusive tone toward atheists would have drawn my ire when I was in my twenties, just the same as it does today. The idea that I'm "stalking" you is so ridiculous that I feel ridiculous for even responding to it. All I've done is recognize you for the scumbag you are, and taken it upon myself to return your derision until you grow tired of pontificating and go fuck off elsewhere.

The fact that you still think being okay with making a joke as if  I was gay actually means I'm closeted (or, apparently, a rapist) is still mind-boggling to me. Your mind is a quagmire of self-righteousness and prejudice, which is the reason I've taken it upon myself to target you for a little "I bet the Christer is afraid of a few gay references" harassment. And you've fulfilled my expectations of a bigot and then some! 

As I said before, none of this has to do with prison, and it's certainly not an "alpha dominance" thing. It's like I told you before: talking to any Southern man as you have would get your face bashed in, or at least a good attempt at it. In fact, I'd say I've been surprisingly gentle with you, simply asking you politely if you'd enjoy a little "mouth hug" of my wiener. I guess that's what you get when you try to do something nice for a sexually-repressed religious person.

But go ahead, scumbag, imply that I'm actually gay--as if that's an insult; I'd own it proudly if I was!--and mentally unstable. That'll never make up for the fact that you tried to win an argument by referencing prison trauma/rape, like the scumbag you are. We all come here to argue, and to try to win arguments, but there's a line. You didn't cross it, you leaped right over it. And I will continue to drive you until you get the fuck away from the people I like so much, whom I seek to protect by engaging you and your abusiveness.

In the words of Ezekiel, I will "stand in the gap and make up the hedge" against you, as long as you insist on speaking to us the way you do. If you decide to turn into a human being, like the Christians here with real human empathy, who actually know how to talk to us like people and whom I hold in great regard, then I will treat you accordingly... but keep in mind, I'm not a Christian. I have no reason to "turn the other cheek". I try to be at peace with others, unless they attack. If you strike, expect to be struck in return (in this case, verbally). Cease acting like a scumbag, and you will no longer be treated like one.

Until then, by all means, crow a bit more about your moral and emotional superiority, Scumbag. I can't wait to hear your next deflection.

[drfuzzy]

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Look sport, Your not in prison anymore, right?

Yet you seem to still feel like you have to be the alpha. I say that because just look at your last post and all you feel like you have to prove. look at how you react when challenged or perceive a threat. At what point do you turn the other cheek? Never? The only people who can't Ever turn the other cheek are those in prison.. Which you have been released from right? Yet here we are what 6 + weeks past the point where I initially slighted you? 2 weeks after you came out of the blue and started asking for homosexual favors? All because I suggested you might have some prison form of PTSD?

Do you not understand the term? It is not a term used to baseless insult someone. If you can not let something like this EVER go then how are your actions not related to a prison trauma?

Again look at your story look at what you had to do to live the way you wanted to live... How can you not be affected by that? Now look at what your doing, when you troll and flame taking your anger from one thread to the next. How is stalking me Not a direct result of the person who you had to become in prison to survive?

But, again are you still in prison? Yet you retain apart of that person who very much is... That my friend is a manfestation of post traumatic stress disorder.

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Unless you were a closeted gay/Ass hole who held a grudge for way way too long, before you went to jail.

Look, Scumbag, I'm not only not in prison anymore, I'm not a felon anymore. So fuck off with your implications. You have no understanding whatsoever, but it clearly doesn't stop you from flapping your cocksucker.  

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I would not have let it go that a person uses rape as a rhetorical device (or worse, a veiled slur) even before I went to prison. What you said was just plain wrong, verging on evil. That doesn't make me "holding a grudge" of some kind, other than disliking you for what you did... it's simply an inexcusable thing that you have done, and the fact that you are perfectly okay with making such a reference, even trying to turn the blame back upon me, tells me you likely have some form of sociopathy. I've seen plenty of those in the past decade. You have no excuse for taking this to the places you have taken it, and it is why I will continue to refer to you, simply, as "scumbag". Don't thank me... you've earned it!

And what the hell is "from one thread to the next"? I read through every thread on this forum, and I comment whenever I feel it's applicable. You're not special... certainly not special enough to "stalk". Get over yourself. Your derisive and abusive tone toward atheists would have drawn my ire when I was in my twenties, just the same as it does today. The idea that I'm "stalking" you is so ridiculous that I feel ridiculous for even responding to it. All I've done is recognize you for the scumbag you are, and taken it upon myself to return your derision until you grow tired of pontificating and go fuck off elsewhere.

The fact that you still think being okay with making a joke as if  I was gay actually means I'm closeted (or, apparently, a rapist) is still mind-boggling to me. Your mind is a quagmire of self-righteousness and prejudice, which is the reason I've taken it upon myself to target you for a little "I bet the Christer is afraid of a few gay references" harassment. And you've fulfilled my expectations of a bigot and then some! 

As I said before, none of this has to do with prison, and it's certainly not an "alpha dominance" thing. It's like I told you before: talking to any Southern man as you have would get your face bashed in, or at least a good attempt at it. In fact, I'd say I've been surprisingly gentle with you, simply asking you politely if you'd enjoy a little "mouth hug" of my wiener. I guess that's what you get when you try to do something nice for a sexually-repressed religious person.

But go ahead, scumbag, imply that I'm actually gay--as if that's an insult; I'd own it proudly if I was!--and mentally unstable. That'll never make up for the fact that you tried to win an argument by referencing prison trauma/rape, like the scumbag you are. We all come here to argue, and to try to win arguments, but there's a line. You didn't cross it, you leaped right over it. And I will continue to drive you until you get the fuck away from the people I like so much, whom I seek to protect by engaging you and your abusiveness.

In the words of Ezekiel, I will "stand in the gap and make up the hedge" against you, as long as you insist on speaking to us the way you do. If you decide to turn into a human being, like the Christians here with real human empathy, who actually know how to talk to us like people and whom I hold in great regard, then I will treat you accordingly... but keep in mind, I'm not a Christian. I have no reason to "turn the other cheek". I try to be at peace with others, unless they attack. If you strike, expect to be struck in return (in this case, verbally). Cease acting like a scumbag, and you will no longer be treated like one.

Until then, by all means, crow a bit more about your moral and emotional superiority, Scumbag. I can't wait to hear your next deflection.  

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You might have to consider dropping it and putting this moronic rancid pond scum on ignore, Rocket my friend.  From reading his posts, it's pretty obvious that he didn't graduate from middle school.  All he knows is his religious delusions and how to insult people that he's far too ignorant to understand.  You're not going to be able to cut through the stupid- it's too thick.  Just sayin' - you'll be happier without dealing with his idiotic insults.  If Jesus himself walked into his room and said he was wrong, he would shoot Jesus between the eyes for disagreeing with him.

[Drich]

Look sport, Your not in prison anymore, right?

Yet you seem to still feel like you have to be the alpha. I say that because just look at your last post and all you feel like you have to prove. look at how you react when challenged or perceive a threat. At what point do you turn the other cheek? Never? The only people who can't Ever turn the other cheek are those in prison.. Which you have been released from right? Yet here we are what 6 + weeks past the point where I initially slighted you? 2 weeks after you came out of the blue and started asking for homosexual favors? All because I suggested you might have some prison form of PTSD?

Do you not understand the term? It is not a term used to baseless insult someone. If you can not let something like this EVER go then how are your actions not related to a prison trauma?

Again look at your story look at what you had to do to live the way you wanted to live... How can you not be affected by that? Now look at what your doing, when you troll and flame taking your anger from one thread to the next. How is stalking me Not a direct result of the person who you had to become in prison to survive?

But, again are you still in prison? Yet you retain apart of that person who very much is... That my friend is a manfestation of post traumatic stress disorder.

Unless you were a closeted gay/Ass hole who held a grudge for way way too long, before you went to jail.

Look, Scumbag, I'm not only not in prison anymore, I'm not a felon anymore. So fuck off with your implications. You have no understanding whatsoever, but it clearly doesn't stop you from flapping your cocksucker.

I would not have let it go that a person uses rape as a rhetorical device (or worse, a veiled slur) even before I went to prison. What you said was just plain wrong, verging on evil. That doesn't make me "holding a grudge" of some kind, other than disliking you for what you did... it's simply an inexcusable thing that you have done, and the fact that you are perfectly okay with making such a reference, even trying to turn the blame back upon me, tells me you likely have some form of sociopathy. I've seen plenty of those in the past decade. You have no excuse for taking this to the places you have taken it, and it is why I will continue to refer to you, simply, as "scumbag". Don't thank me... you've earned it!

And what the hell is "from one thread to the next"? I read through every thread on this forum, and I comment whenever I feel it's applicable. You're not special... certainly not special enough to "stalk". Get over yourself. Your derisive and abusive tone toward atheists would have drawn my ire when I was in my twenties, just the same as it does today. The idea that I'm "stalking" you is so ridiculous that I feel ridiculous for even responding to it. All I've done is recognize you for the scumbag you are, and taken it upon myself to return your derision until you grow tired of pontificating and go fuck off elsewhere.

The fact that you still think being okay with making a joke as if  I was gay actually means I'm closeted (or, apparently, a rapist) is still mind-boggling to me. Your mind is a quagmire of self-righteousness and prejudice, which is the reason I've taken it upon myself to target you for a little "I bet the Christer is afraid of a few gay references" harassment. And you've fulfilled my expectations of a bigot and then some! 

As I said before, none of this has to do with prison, and it's certainly not an "alpha dominance" thing. It's like I told you before: talking to any Southern man as you have would get your face bashed in, or at least a good attempt at it. In fact, I'd say I've been surprisingly gentle with you, simply asking you politely if you'd enjoy a little "mouth hug" of my wiener. I guess that's what you get when you try to do something nice for a sexually-repressed religious person.

But go ahead, scumbag, imply that I'm actually gay--as if that's an insult; I'd own it proudly if I was!--and mentally unstable. That'll never make up for the fact that you tried to win an argument by referencing prison trauma/rape, like the scumbag you are. We all come here to argue, and to try to win arguments, but there's a line. You didn't cross it, you leaped right over it. And I will continue to drive you until you get the fuck away from the people I like so much, whom I seek to protect by engaging you and your abusiveness.

In the words of Ezekiel, I will "stand in the gap and make up the hedge" against you, as long as you insist on speaking to us the way you do. If you decide to turn into a human being, like the Christians here with real human empathy, who actually know how to talk to us like people and whom I hold in great regard, then I will treat you accordingly... but keep in mind, I'm not a Christian. I have no reason to "turn the other cheek". I try to be at peace with others, unless they attack. If you strike, expect to be struck in return (in this case, verbally). Cease acting like a scumbag, and you will no longer be treated like one.

Until then, by all means, crow a bit more about your moral and emotional superiority, Scumbag. I can't wait to hear your next deflection.

So again... IF you are NOT in prison why do you still behave as if you were?
Why has my 'dis' brought down 4+ weeks of homosexual harassment, a death threat and trolling me from one thread to the next with any thing other than more of the same? this attempt to 'break me' is totally a prison move.

Again this is the behaivor of someone who is in prison. IF again you are not in prison, then know these are the actions of someone who suffers from PTSD from his prison experience. That is what PTSD is sport. We get it, you had to act a certain way to survive your situation. Now you not in that situation anymore. To continue to behave as if you were still in prison is indeed a sign of PTSD. Which again is what started the sexual harassment and death threats to begin with.

(I said you might be suffering from a form of prison PTSD, and low and behold 4 weeks later you have proven me Right!)

[TheRocketSurgeon]