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Reasons
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A (christian) friend of mine asked me to tell him my reasons for being an atheist. So I just thought it would be an interesting thread if all the atheists on here would reply with a reason of their own for not believing.
I'll start. NO EVIDENCE  hock:
"Isn't it enough to see that a garden is beautiful with out having to believe there are fairies at the bottom of it to?" -Douglas Adams.
  
I don't know. I just never did. And as I got older and learned about other religions, none of them made more or less sense than any others.
Best regards,
Leo van Miert Horsepower is how hard you hit the wall --Torque is how far you take the wall with you
Maybe I should add something.
Reasons for not believing and it's benefits. Like the fact that we don't have to live in fear of Hell.
"Isn't it enough to see that a garden is beautiful with out having to believe there are fairies at the bottom of it to?" -Douglas Adams.
Nothing leads me to think there might be a god, and organised religion is a virus.
Why I am an atheist?
OK, using Christianity as my model, it is (as others have said) primarily about evidence i.e. that there is none. It's also about the nature of the claims, the standard Christian ones being:
So yes evidence i.e. the fact that no essential religious claim is testable and that when the rational investigative process is bought to bear on some of these claims it inevitable fails to be "miraculous". Then there is the fact that all religions make claims, that their claims are mostly mutually exclusive (if they are right the others are wrong and they always claim to be "the chosen ones") so logic tells me they all can't be right so why not assume they are all wrong until one actually demonstrates they are right? Then there's the deceit (fraud) and disingenuity side of it ... religion, let's face it, is big money, it's power, it's status and with such things goes money, deceit and attempts to control others. I recognise the need for law and for police (spit) but a society simply doesn't need religion to control its populace. Then there's freedom of thought ... I value my independence of thought and I would rather have a custom-built meaning of life (with commonalities based on basic human psychology) than a stock off-the-shelf version that theists appear to favour where someone else attempts to define what may or may not be acceptable. Finally there's the incompatibility of science and religion ... yes I know that religionists and liberal atheists like to think that science addresses the real world and religion the immaterial but the fact is that nowhere, no-when has anyone ever demonstrated any of this immaterial world to be real (yes I know that doesn't give the immaterial world an edge in but I see no reason to do so) whilst everything science has explained (even if it later turned out to be wrong) has been understandable in light of the available evidence, technology & understandings of the time. I genuinely believe that accepting any religious view as being of real value without evidence is the first step towards illogic, irrationality and insanity. To some people that make me hard, inflexible and closed minded but the truth is I am none of these ... I am flexible, I am open-minded I just won't believe any old piece of crap. Ultimately that makes me free ... free to view the universe as rational and free to try to customise parts of that universe to something better than they otherwise were. Kyu Angry Atheism
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Atheism requires you to limit your thinking. The reason to be atheist is to hide behind a wall of non questioning. None of the arguments above hold out logically. All they do is portray you as people that are afraid to think outside the box. Freedom of thought is the opposite of atheism.
All you argue against is demonstrable proof. Outside of that comfort blanket you're scared children. The walls go up and you refuse to debate, or flame bait to somehow prove to yourselves that you're right. There's no point to exploration if you're too scared to turn over all of the rocks. Atheism looks at itself in the mirror wearing an insane smile and saying to itself in a mantra: I am happy, I am right. (April 2, 2009 at 4:16 pm)fr0d0 Wrote: Atheism requires you to limit your thinking. The reason to be atheist is to hide behind a wall of non questioning. None of the arguments above hold out logically. All they do is portray you as people that are afraid to think outside the box. Freedom of thought is the opposite of atheism. Atheism requires nothing of the sort, as you've been repeatedly told it is not a philosophy so therefore requires nothing. Atheism is a result of a rational outlook. Sure you could argue that being rational creates a "wall" though I'd personally call that discipline which, of course requires effort ... a lot more effort than it requires to believe in things withoiut evidence. (April 2, 2009 at 4:16 pm)fr0d0 Wrote: All you argue against is demonstrable proof. Outside of that comfort blanket you're scared children. The walls go up and you refuse to debate, or flame bait to somehow prove to yourselves that you're right. There's no point to exploration if you're too scared to turn over all of the rocks. Atheism looks at itself in the mirror wearing an insane smile and saying to itself in a mantra: I am happy, I am right. What comfort blanket is required to deal with the cold hard world? Actually it's you and your kind who require the cuddly blanket your beliefs, because your too scared to deal with the real world. Your logic (if that's what you want to call it) sucks. Kyu Angry Atheism
Where those who are hacked off with the stupidity of irrational belief can vent their feelings! Come over to the dark side, we have cookies! Kyuuketsuki, AngryAtheism Owner & Administrator RE: Reasons
April 2, 2009 at 8:27 pm
(This post was last modified: April 2, 2009 at 8:29 pm by WWLD.)
(April 2, 2009 at 4:16 pm)fr0d0 Wrote: Atheism requires you to limit your thinking. The reason to be atheist is to hide behind a wall of non questioning. None of the arguments above hold out logically. All they do is portray you as people that are afraid to think outside the box. Freedom of thought is the opposite of atheism. afraid to think outside the box? thinking outside the box is exactly what atheists do by not believing everything they are told by a book or by a grown up when you are a child. Outside the box is straying away from (for me) the religion I was brought up in (or any other religion for that matter) and considering other possibilities. Religion IS the box, and if anyone is inside that box it's the theists. The smile I wear is not insane. It's the opposite of insane because I do not believe a god or any other super natural being put it there, I don't talk to an invisible man on a cloud, and I don't hear him respond in my head THEISTS are afraid to turn over the rocks because they have faith. The definition of faith is believing without seeing. (April 2, 2009 at 4:28 pm)Kyuuketsuki Wrote: What comfort blanket is required to deal with the cold hard world? Actually it's you and your kind who require the cuddly blanket your beliefs, because your too scared to deal with the real world. agreed
"Isn't it enough to see that a garden is beautiful with out having to believe there are fairies at the bottom of it to?" -Douglas Adams.
RE: Reasons
April 2, 2009 at 8:51 pm
(This post was last modified: April 3, 2009 at 1:18 pm by Demonaura.)
I can't be arsed to say this for the millionth time, enjoy if you care to learn, or ignore it like everyone seems to do when they think they understand what atheisim is.
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