Venting here.

[SofaKingHigh]

You're very welcome.

[Little Rik]

Clown.  

Doctors say.........the guy is dead.
You say.....Near Death Experiences......

Why should I believe a clown?
I rather believe a qualify doctor.  

You never thought of that, did you Sof?  

near

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at or to a short distance away; nearby.
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2.
a short time away in the future.
"his retirement was drawing near"
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at or to a short distance away from (a place).
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located a short distance away.
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"they carried her to the nearest house"
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only a short time ahead.
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Fool.  

Someone gave the name NEAR because the dead guy come back to life.
The guy was clinically dead or 100% dead.
Atheists find impossible to believe that a dead person can come back to life so they reckon that the guy
really never die even when the medical science say the opposite.
Sorry son but you will have to digest this hard reality that people can come back from
real death whether you like it or not.  

[Doubting Thomas]

Someone gave the name NEAR because the dead guy come back to life.
The guy was clinically dead or 100% dead.

No, "near death" or clinical death isn't 100% dead if your brain is still alive.  No way can anyone come back to life if their brain is dead.  Of course it doesn't take long to go from clinical death to total death, if the doctors can't get your heart started again.  But near death is not total death.

Nor does the NDE crowd ever want to talk about the numerous people who are resuscitated but did not experience any of the "floating above my body/flying down a tunnel" type hallucinations.  They don't experience anything at all, death to them was just like falling asleep.

[AceBoogie]

Someone gave the name NEAR because the dead guy come back to life.
The guy was clinically dead or 100% dead.

No, "near death" or clinical death isn't 100% dead if your brain is still alive.  No way can anyone come back to life if their brain is dead.  Of course it doesn't take long to go from clinical death to total death, if the doctors can't get your heart started again.  But near death is not total death.

Nor does the NDE crowd ever want to talk about the numerous people who are resuscitated but did not experience any of the "floating above my body/flying down a tunnel" type hallucinations.  They don't experience anything at all, death to them was just like falling asleep.

I have a friend who was involved in an automobile accident and technically die for a few minutes several times in the span of a few hours. He saw no light, no angels or demons, no gods, no dead relatives, no movie replaying his life. Nothing.

Guess god was out to lunch on that one.

[Little Rik]

No, "near death" or clinical death isn't 100% dead if your brain is still alive.  No way can anyone come back to life if their brain is dead.  Of course it doesn't take long to go from clinical death to total death, if the doctors can't get your heart started again.  But near death is not total death.

Nor does the NDE crowd ever want to talk about the numerous people who are resuscitated but did not experience any of the "floating above my body/flying down a tunnel" type hallucinations.  They don't experience anything at all, death to them was just like falling asleep.

I have a friend who was involved in an automobile accident and technically die for a few minutes several times in the span of a few hours. He saw no light, no angels or demons, no gods, no dead relatives, no movie replaying his life. Nothing.

Guess god was out to lunch on that one.

If you would have read some of the NDEs experiences you would know why some people have an NDE
experience and other do not.
The reason is very very simple.
God knows who can make good use of the experience and who does not so what is the point in giving
such an experience to someone that will not make good use of that experience?
Beside many people are not interested in God so why God should be interested in them?  

There are however exceptions to the rule.
Some strong atheists after an NDE experience all of a sudden become strong theists.
In this case God knew that deep inside there were room for God so God get manifested.

[AceBoogie]

I have a friend who was involved in an automobile accident and technically die for a few minutes several times in the span of a few hours. He saw no light, no angels or demons, no gods, no dead relatives, no movie replaying his life. Nothing.

Guess god was out to lunch on that one.

If you would have read some of the NDEs experiences you would know why some people have an NDE
experience and other do not.
The reason is very very simple.
God knows who can make good use of the experience and who does not so what is the point in giving
such an experience to someone that will not make good use of that experience?
Beside many people are not interested in God so why God should be interested in them?  

There are however exceptions to the rule.
Some strong atheists after an NDE experience all of a sudden become strong theists.
In this case God knew that deep inside there were room for God so God get manifested.

How do you know the criteria by which god chooses who does and does not have near death hallucinations? Did god tell you this personally? Do you hear voices in your head?

Also, according to Christians god IS interested in all of us because he loves all of us and will do everything he can (without influencing our free will of course) to show us his love... right?

[Little Rik]

If you would have read some of the NDEs experiences you would know why some people have an NDE
experience and other do not.
The reason is very very simple.
God knows who can make good use of the experience and who does not so what is the point in giving
such an experience to someone that will not make good use of that experience?
Beside many people are not interested in God so why God should be interested in them?  

There are however exceptions to the rule.
Some strong atheists after an NDE experience all of a sudden become strong theists.
In this case God knew that deep inside there were room for God so God get manifested.

How do you know the criteria by which god chooses who does and does not have near death hallucinations? Did god tell you this personally? Do you hear voices in your head?

That is why I suggest you to read some of the NDEs experiences.
In this way you would understand how the system works from the very people who experience God.

http://www.nderf.org/NDERF/NDE_Archives/...counts.htm

Also, according to Christians god IS interested in all of us because he loves all of us and will do everything he can (without influencing our free will of course) to show us his love... right?

Correct and wrong at the same time.
Correct because everything is inside his mind so he can not possibly hate anyone.
He would hate himself which is not possible.
At the same time to be interested in all of us does not means that he should give gifts to those who do not deserve YET.
Suppose you are a teacher.
Some of your student deserve to go ahead.
Some other do not deserve that.
Would you pass those who do not deserve?

You see, in this case love has absolutely nothing to do with pass them.
You would wish that everybody pass and get over with all your heart but you can not do that AS YET.

Capish?  

[AceBoogie]

If you're going to dance around my questions I refuse to continue the discussion. Thanks for your time.