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RE: Inside Aleppo
December 16, 2016 at 8:04 pm
(December 16, 2016 at 7:35 pm)Faith No More Wrote: It is big news if you look in the right places. It's not just Aleppo. The whole country has been a mountain of misery since the war began.
And you can blame the American media for lack of coverage, but the fault really lies on the people. The media just reports what gets them the most views and clicks. The average American doesn't have an attention span long enough to follow the conflict and is more interested in what some celebrity posted on Facebook or some stupid viral video like Chewbacca mom
I completely agree.
I'm not aiming this at CL, she posted this thread to try drawing attention to it and therefore did the opposite of what I'm going to say.
Generally speaking though, people will love to complain about "why isn't this getting covered?!" ... "Why is Paris getting more attention than Lebanon and Kenya?!" ... my response to these people is to ask whether or not they actually searched for information. We have the internet now, you can see world events very highly covered and with a range of political viewpoints at the click of a button. If you want to spread awareness of something that is going on in the world that you personally (for whatever reason) feel is being under-reported, do what CL did in this thread, post it on social media. Talk about it.
And you're absolutely right, the biggest news in the West is always salaciousness and celebrity gossip. As a whole society, we care more about Kim Kardashian "breaking the internet" with raunchy photos, and who is wearing the prettiest dress on the red carpet, than we care about the world going to shit. That's what gets our attention, we are so damn easy to distract.
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RE: Inside Aleppo
December 16, 2016 at 8:09 pm
It's just crazy to me how ppl on Facebook are talking more about kanye west. When 9/11 happened, that's all everyone here talked about for months. But then when it's children being killed in a 3rd world country, it's like it doesn't matter as much.
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RE: Inside Aleppo
December 16, 2016 at 8:17 pm
It's not that crazy when you see that even here Americans openly admit to caring less about foreigners.
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RE: Inside Aleppo
December 16, 2016 at 8:21 pm
I care more about the things that are happening in my country. There is absolutely nothing wrong with US citizens caring about their country as well.
And no, I'm not talking about celebrity gossip nonsense.
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RE: Inside Aleppo
December 16, 2016 at 8:35 pm
I do think to some degree I understand that. Attacks in Europe and North America get more focus in mainstream European and North American news because it's on our doorstep. I'm sure Middle Eastern press focuses more on terror that happens close to home for them. News outlets do tend to report on the stuff that is most immediate to them, it takes very big shit to happen in any given place for it to hit the news in a far away country.
But I do stand by what I said, there's plenty of coverage and information on the internet of world events, and if the mainstream media isn't reporting on something then people have to take it upon themselves to get educated. I don't want to hear you complaining about how "Belgium and France got a flag on Facebook!!! Waaaaah!" or that it got more coverage than simultaneous attacks in other countries, when you could very easily upload any flag you want as your Facebook profile picture and use your own platform to spread news.
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RE: Inside Aleppo
December 16, 2016 at 8:51 pm
(December 16, 2016 at 8:21 pm)Bella Morte Wrote: I care more about the things that are happening in my country. There is absolutely nothing wrong with US citizens caring about their country as well.
And no, I'm not talking about celebrity gossip nonsense.
The comment wasn't about caring about one's country. It was someone openly admitting that an American stranger's life is worth more to them than a foreigner's, which I find hard to fathom given that we all bleed just the same. Suffering is suffering regardless of a person's birthplace that they have no control over.
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RE: Inside Aleppo
December 16, 2016 at 8:57 pm
(December 16, 2016 at 8:51 pm)Faith No More Wrote: (December 16, 2016 at 8:21 pm)Bella Morte Wrote: I care more about the things that are happening in my country. There is absolutely nothing wrong with US citizens caring about their country as well.
And no, I'm not talking about celebrity gossip nonsense.
The comment wasn't about caring about one's country. It was someone openly admitting that an American stranger's life is worth more to them than a foreigner's, which I find hard to fathom given that we all bleed just the same. Suffering is suffering regardless of a person's birthplace that they have no control over.
I don't see anything wrong with that.
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RE: Inside Aleppo
December 16, 2016 at 8:57 pm
(This post was last modified: December 16, 2016 at 8:58 pm by Aroura.)
It's at the top of my social media news feed, and online news as well.
I was just reading a "top 7 things you can do" like donating to the white hats, who they admit are accused of having possible political motivations at first, but since they are saving so many, should we care? And doctors without borders, of course.
I watched some livestream stuff for earlier. I feel horrified and helpless.
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RE: Inside Aleppo
December 16, 2016 at 9:01 pm
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Thank you for doing that.
Would you mind posting a link to that list here?
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RE: Inside Aleppo
December 16, 2016 at 9:03 pm
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(December 16, 2016 at 8:09 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: It's just crazy to me how ppl on Facebook are talking more about kanye west. When 9/11 happened, that's all everyone here talked about for months. But then when it's children being killed in a 3rd world country, it's like it doesn't matter as much.
Everyone's feed is different. No one on my fb feed is talking about Kanye, literally haven't even seen a mention of him in ages.
I have seen a ton of Aleppo stuff I the last probably 72 hours, still a lot about standing rock and recent oil leaks causing problems, stuff like that.
Mainstream media should report on it more, but I'm always baffled at what mom focuses on.
(December 16, 2016 at 9:01 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: Thank you for doing that.
Would you mind posting a link to that list here?
Of course, here you go!
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/...76516.html
Sorry, on my tablet I can't make pretty links.
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