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RE: I Find It Offensive; How About You
June 24, 2011 at 1:53 pm
(June 24, 2011 at 1:24 pm)TheologicalThinker1 Wrote: That Christians, and anyone who isn't an Atheist for that matter, is not a 'Free' Thinker. I may believe in Christianity, but that doesn't mean I'm not a free thinker! I made a choice to be a Christian which means I freely chose to be one. I was not forced to be one. Even as a Christian I can freely think. Can someone explain to me how the term 'Free' Thinker only applies to Atheists?
Hurrah, I've managed to offend you already! I'm thrilled 
TheologicalThinker1 Wrote:Then you're not a freethinker either, no? You have no scientific proof that a God doesn't exist, so you would be in the same boat as us. Really, the only ones who are freethinkers would be agnostics because they neither deny or accept the theory of a god or gods existing.
You actually used this argument? Seriously?
You can't disprove Zeus or Thor or fairies or unicorns or the Flying Spaghetti Monster or celestial teapots. That's not the problem, if you claim something is there, it is you who must prove it.
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RE: I Find It Offensive; How About You
June 24, 2011 at 1:53 pm
(June 24, 2011 at 1:47 pm)TheologicalThinker1 Wrote: Please don't resort to belittling my beliefs and calling Jesus a 'zombie'.
LMAO trust me, he could do a whole lot worse than calling your jebus a zombie.
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RE: I Find It Offensive; How About You
June 24, 2011 at 1:54 pm
(June 24, 2011 at 1:34 pm)TheologicalThinker1 Wrote: Then you're not a freethinker either, no? You have no scientific proof that a God doesn't exist, so you would be in the same boat as us. Really, the only ones who are freethinkers would be agnostics because they neither deny or accept the theory of a god or gods existing.
Not having proof for something is a good reason to believe in it is it?
Do you even know what you are typing?
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RE: I Find It Offensive; How About You
June 24, 2011 at 1:56 pm
Quote:I think a lot of Christians are closed-minded when it comes to some things, but I try not to be...
So, you're a xtian who knows better than your god, eh?
I don't deny you that right but understand that there are plenty of your fellow xtians who would consider you a heretic for that.
I, of course, operate from the premise that all religion is man-made shit anyway and thus reflects the biases of the originators....but it has nothing to do with any fucking 'god.'
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RE: I Find It Offensive; How About You
June 24, 2011 at 2:10 pm
(June 24, 2011 at 1:24 pm)TheologicalThinker1 Wrote: That Christians, and anyone who isn't an Atheist for that matter, is not a 'Free' Thinker. I may believe in Christianity, but that doesn't mean I'm not a free thinker! I made a choice to be a Christian which means I freely chose to be one. I was not forced to be one. Even as a Christian I can freely think. Can someone explain to me how the term 'Free' Thinker only applies to Atheists?
I don't find it offensive.
I think that 'free thinker' is necessarily silly. I'm a determinist, so I understand all of our thinking is not 'free' any more than is our will.
So... I guess you could sat that I find it funny. 
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RE: I Find It Offensive; How About You
June 24, 2011 at 2:11 pm
Here you go.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lnSByCb8lqY
Until I meet said zombie, or someone show me empirical evidence of his deity I will continue to call him a zombie. Oh firstly can someone show me evidence of his existance?
BTW it's not personal.
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RE: I Find It Offensive; How About You
June 24, 2011 at 2:11 pm
(This post was last modified: June 24, 2011 at 2:11 pm by Kayenneh.)
You're offended, eh? Maybe we've hit a sore spot? Why be offended anyways? If you're right, you'd know so, otherwise listen to people that are smarter than yourself. Do yourself a favour and read TheYoungAtheist's thread about getting offended.
When I was young, there was a god with infinite power protecting me. Is there anyone else who felt that way? And was sure about it? but the first time I fell in love, I was thrown down - or maybe I broke free - and I bade farewell to God and became human. Now I don't have God's protection, and I walk on the ground without wings, but I don't regret this hardship. I want to live as a person. -Arina Tanemura
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RE: I Find It Offensive; How About You
June 24, 2011 at 2:15 pm
(June 24, 2011 at 2:11 pm)5thHorseman Wrote: This quote from Stephen Fry owned the forum yesterday
Lol he couldn't of picked a worse time to say that he was offended eh?
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RE: I Find It Offensive; How About You
June 24, 2011 at 2:16 pm
(June 24, 2011 at 1:34 pm)TheologicalThinker1 Wrote: Then you're not a freethinker either, no? You have no scientific proof that a God doesn't exist, so you would be in the same boat as us. Really, the only ones who are freethinkers would be agnostics because they neither deny or accept the theory of a god or gods existing.
Not to split hairs here or anything, but most people that are agnostic are also atheists. They're agnostic because they won't say definitively there is no god, but since they have no belief in one, they are atheists.
Even if the open windows of science at first make us shiver after the cozy indoor warmth of traditional humanizing myths, in the end the fresh air brings vigor, and the great spaces have a splendor of their own - Bertrand Russell
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RE: I Find It Offensive; How About You
June 24, 2011 at 2:22 pm
(June 24, 2011 at 1:24 pm)TheologicalThinker1 Wrote: That Christians, and anyone who isn't an Atheist for that matter, is not a 'Free' Thinker. I may believe in Christianity, but that doesn't mean I'm not a free thinker! I made a choice to be a Christian which means I freely chose to be one. I was not forced to be one. Even as a Christian I can freely think. Can someone explain to me how the term 'Free' Thinker only applies to Atheists?
It's not that you can't think freely. It's that you ignore a lot of you're thoughts due to dogma, or just throw them out the window.
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