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RE: Atheists don't realize asking for evidence of God is a strawman
November 9, 2017 at 11:42 pm
(November 9, 2017 at 3:12 am)Aroura Wrote: Evidence isn’t restricted to science, despite what you say.
Also, you mocking others who belittle...hypocrite much?
Kind of ironic when the person who talks of a strawman is making a strawman.
I don't remember the last time when an atheist asked for scientific evidence of God. Any evidence at all would be great, if it were possible.
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RE: Atheists don't realize asking for evidence of God is a strawman
November 10, 2017 at 12:26 am
So the punchline is that the op created a giant strawman while talking about strawmen?
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RE: Atheists don't realize asking for evidence of God is a strawman
November 10, 2017 at 12:37 am
Yeah.
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RE: Atheists don't realize asking for evidence of God is a strawman
November 10, 2017 at 12:43 am
I think he is operating under the impression that the trick with any of these fallacies it to be the first one to whine.
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RE: Atheists don't realize asking for evidence of God is a strawman
November 10, 2017 at 12:47 am
(November 9, 2017 at 1:21 am)pool the matey Wrote: Sometimes it's good to have a conversation with a non believer because you learn certain things from them and they learn certain things from you because you're both open minded and you both have a good conversation.
Other times some people are just close minded, they don't care about having a conversation, they're just there to show their "dominance" over you with comments that degrade virgin Mary, how you're too weak minded to be believing in "made up stories", or just to poke fun at you. Well, you can tell these assholes asking for evidence of God is silly according to their own standards. Why?
Because it's a strawman fallacy. How?
Only scientific textbooks needs to provide scientific evidence.
Nowhere in the Bible does it claim to be a scientific textbook, it's a religious textbook and it's called the Christian faith not the Christian science.
So when someone asks for scientific evidence they themselves are asserting that Bible is a scientific textbook(which it never claimed) and then asks for evidence(which it doesn't have to present).
So next time someone just wants to shut you down, you can do the same thing to them. Ask them to show where in the bible it claims to be a scientific textbook and then you'll give the scientific evidence.
The most obvious reply will be "So if Bible isn't scientific it isn't real is it lolololol". You can use the same trick atheists use(It's not that I DON'T believe in God or claim God doesn't exist, I just reject the claim). Just reply "I never claimed Bible isn't scientific, I just reject your claim that Bible is scientific because you didn't provide any evidence to back it up"
Obviously only use this against assholes that just want to mock and belittle you, having a discussion is always good but some people are just assholes that doesn't deserve a decent conversation and it also doesn't hurt to have a bigger arsenal.
When we say that, we are asking for a reason why we should believe. We say this in response to people trying to convince us to believe in God. We aren't claiming it's a textbook, we are just asking for a reason to believe. Without evidence, there is no reason for me to believe your claims that God exists. It's a mere possibility that he exists, and one that would seem outlandish to me if I was in a society where it was more uncommon belief system. I am not going to assume God exists, I will not have faith. I will however, continue thinking about the possibilities of where I came from, why I'm here, whether or not I am here at all...
But for simplicity sake, I will live my life based on what seems most obvious, because it would be complicated to live assuming that this is all a lie. I assume that I am really here(life is not a simulation) and that there is no creator, I am a product of evolution.
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RE: Atheists don't realize asking for evidence of God is a strawman
November 10, 2017 at 12:47 am
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(November 10, 2017 at 12:43 am)Whateverist Wrote: I think he is operating under the impression that the trick with any of these fallacies it to be the first one to whine.
Because whine the hell not?
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RE: Atheists don't realize asking for evidence of God is a strawman
November 10, 2017 at 3:38 am
(November 10, 2017 at 12:47 am)Hammy Wrote: (November 10, 2017 at 12:43 am)Whateverist Wrote: I think he is operating under the impression that the trick with any of these fallacies it to be the first one to whine.
Because whine the hell not?
Or, wine the hell not? 🍷
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RE: Atheists don't realize asking for evidence of God is a strawman
November 10, 2017 at 4:02 am
Indeed.
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RE: Atheists don't realize asking for evidence of God is a strawman
November 10, 2017 at 4:19 am
(November 10, 2017 at 12:43 am)Whateverist Wrote: I think he is operating under the impression that the trick with any of these fallacies it to be the first one to whine.
Yeah, that's the well known squeaky wheel gets the grease fallacy!
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RE: Atheists don't realize asking for evidence of God is a strawman
November 10, 2017 at 9:20 am
(November 10, 2017 at 12:26 am)Nay_Sayer Wrote: So the punchline is that the op created a giant strawman while talking about strawmen? And what a strawman it is too. This strawman dodges out of the way of any real arguments while trading sucker punches with the crows. How cute.
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