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RE: Defensive anyone? Kavanaugh sounds scared!
September 29, 2018 at 12:52 pm
(September 29, 2018 at 12:48 pm)Grim Wrote: (September 27, 2018 at 7:50 pm)Aliza Wrote: Kavanaugh is being rushed in, and that's clearly political maneuvering on part of the Republicans. If the Democrats have done maneuvering, its in response to this rushed process.
Very good point.
Not true.
Kagan took 87 days to be confirmed after nomination. Sotomayor and Roberts both 72 days. Gorsuch 66 days. Thomas 106 days and Souter 71 days. Trump picked Kavanaugh on July 9th. It's been 82 days. Nothing has been rushed. It's right on schedule.
Oh? Then why don't we have all the documents, and why did we have to depend on a partisan lawyer for the ones we do have?
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RE: Defensive anyone? Kavanaugh sounds scared!
September 29, 2018 at 1:00 pm
(September 29, 2018 at 12:52 pm)Jörmungandr Wrote: (September 29, 2018 at 12:48 pm)Grim Wrote: Not true.
Kagan took 87 days to be confirmed after nomination. Sotomayor and Roberts both 72 days. Gorsuch 66 days. Thomas 106 days and Souter 71 days. Trump picked Kavanaugh on July 9th. It's been 82 days. Nothing has been rushed. It's right on schedule.
Oh? Then why don't we have all the documents, and why did we have to depend on a partisan lawyer for the ones we do have?
My point was that his confirmation process has not been "rushed." The fact is that we have the separation of powers, and the executive branch has claimed executive privilege on some of the documents, nothing can be done about it. He's already turned over more documents and answered more questions than all other SCOTUS nominees combined. That's fact.
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RE: Defensive anyone? Kavanaugh sounds scared!
September 29, 2018 at 1:08 pm
(September 29, 2018 at 11:35 am)pablo628 Wrote: ... all I saw was an entitled, spoiled brat who thinks that seat is owed to him ...
From the beginning, when Kavanaugh made his nomination acceptance talk claiming Trump's vetting of him went further than any prior President's, he revealed himself a partisan liar.
Very quickly questions arose concerning his lying to Congress in prior occasions giving testimony.
This tirade of absolute denial and partisan pleading reveals he's a whiner with no wisdom or self control. Never mind teenage transgressions; he's bereft of the necessary character to take a seat on the SCOTUS. John Roberts must be in agony that a turkey like this could wind up on his court.
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RE: Defensive anyone? Kavanaugh sounds scared!
September 29, 2018 at 1:14 pm
(September 29, 2018 at 1:00 pm)Grim Wrote: (September 29, 2018 at 12:52 pm)Jörmungandr Wrote: Oh? Then why don't we have all the documents, and why did we have to depend on a partisan lawyer for the ones we do have?
My point was that his confirmation process has not been "rushed." The fact is that we have the separation of powers, and the executive branch has claimed executive privilege on some of the documents, nothing can be done about it. He's already turned over more documents and answered more questions than all other SCOTUS nominees combined. That's fact.
But is the percentage of documents turned over to documents that exist as high as other SCOTUS nominees?
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RE: Defensive anyone? Kavanaugh sounds scared!
September 29, 2018 at 1:25 pm
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(September 29, 2018 at 1:08 pm)airportkid Wrote: (September 29, 2018 at 11:35 am)pablo628 Wrote: ... all I saw was an entitled, spoiled brat who thinks that seat is owed to him ...
From the beginning, when Kavanaugh made his nomination acceptance talk claiming Trump's vetting of him went further than any prior President's, he revealed himself a partisan liar.
Very quickly questions arose concerning his lying to Congress in prior occasions giving testimony.
This tirade of absolute denial and partisan pleading reveals he's a whiner with no wisdom or self control. Never mind teenage transgressions; he's bereft of the necessary character to take a seat on the SCOTUS. John Roberts must be in agony that a turkey like this could wind up on his court. If BK gets appointed, RBG is going to end up with severe Carpal Tunnel from writing so many dissenting opinions.
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RE: Defensive anyone? Kavanaugh sounds scared!
September 29, 2018 at 1:35 pm
(September 29, 2018 at 1:14 pm)Aliza Wrote: (September 29, 2018 at 1:00 pm)Grim Wrote: My point was that his confirmation process has not been "rushed." The fact is that we have the separation of powers, and the executive branch has claimed executive privilege on some of the documents, nothing can be done about it. He's already turned over more documents and answered more questions than all other SCOTUS nominees combined. That's fact.
But is the percentage of documents turned over to documents that exist as high as other SCOTUS nominees?
I was just wondering this. In the modern world of emails and other electronic documents, surely many more exist in the first place than ever before.
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RE: Defensive anyone? Kavanaugh sounds scared!
September 29, 2018 at 1:39 pm
(September 29, 2018 at 1:35 pm)Aroura Wrote: (September 29, 2018 at 1:14 pm)Aliza Wrote: But is the percentage of documents turned over to documents that exist as high as other SCOTUS nominees?
I was just wondering this. In the modern world of emails and other electronic documents, surely many more exist in the first place than ever before.
President Clinton released 5,000 documents on Sotomayor. Bush released 42,000 on Kavanaugh.
Any questions?
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RE: Defensive anyone? Kavanaugh sounds scared!
September 29, 2018 at 1:41 pm
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(September 29, 2018 at 1:39 pm)Grim Wrote: (September 29, 2018 at 1:35 pm)Aroura Wrote: I was just wondering this. In the modern world of emails and other electronic documents, surely many more exist in the first place than ever before.
President Clinton released 5,000 documents on Sotomayor. Bush released 42,000 on Kavanaugh.
Any questions? Yes. The one I already asked and you didn't answer.
Edit. The one Aliza asked, and you failed to answer. I just commented on her question, but I have the same one.
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RE: Defensive anyone? Kavanaugh sounds scared!
September 29, 2018 at 1:45 pm
(September 29, 2018 at 1:41 pm)Aroura Wrote: (September 29, 2018 at 1:39 pm)Grim Wrote: President Clinton released 5,000 documents on Sotomayor. Bush released 42,000 on Kavanaugh.
Any questions? Yes. The one I already asked and you didn't answer.
Edit. The one Aliza asked, and you failed to answer. I just commented on her question, but I have the same one.
Impossible to know. Maybe Sotomayor has 100,000 documents hidden with executive privilege. Perhaps Kavanaugh does as well. We'll never know in either case, because president's have executive privilege and can release what they feel is relevant.
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RE: Defensive anyone? Kavanaugh sounds scared!
September 29, 2018 at 1:47 pm
(September 29, 2018 at 1:39 pm)Grim Wrote: (September 29, 2018 at 1:35 pm)Aroura Wrote: I was just wondering this. In the modern world of emails and other electronic documents, surely many more exist in the first place than ever before.
President Clinton released 5,000 documents on Sotomayor. Bush released 42,000 on Kavanaugh.
Any questions?
What I want to know is if Sotomayor had 5,000 to be released or if the available documents was a much higher number. Of the possible documents, how many made it to the senate for review? If Bush released 42,000, but the available documents were 342,000, then the percentage released is not very impressive. Also, if Bush released the documents, but Trump blocked them, that that's something I'd also need clarification on.
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