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Devolution
#61
RE: Devolution
Yeah, yeah.
Since you know SO much, be condescending to those who haven't swallowed your coprolite.

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85 BILLION neurons that 'just happened' to organize themselves so well.
The Ultimate Fairy Tale- 'Evolution'!
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#62
RE: Devolution
(April 27, 2020 at 3:31 pm)theMadJW Wrote: Yeah, yeah.
Since you know SO much, be condescending to those who haven't swallowed your coprolite.



85 BILLION neurons that 'just happened' to organize themselves so well.
The Ultimate Fairy Tale- 'Evolution'!

And what about animals with primitive brains or animals with almost no brain at all--did someone had to create them as well? You see humans didn't just puff into existence.
teachings of the Bible are so muddled and self-contradictory that it was possible for Christians to happily burn heretics alive for five long centuries. It was even possible for the most venerated patriarchs of the Church, like St. Augustine and St. Thomas Aquinas, to conclude that heretics should be tortured (Augustine) or killed outright (Aquinas). Martin Luther and John Calvin advocated the wholesale murder of heretics, apostates, Jews, and witches. - Sam Harris, "Letter To A Christian Nation"
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#63
RE: Devolution
(April 27, 2020 at 3:31 pm)theMadJW Wrote: Yeah, yeah.
Since you know SO much, be condescending to those who haven't swallowed your coprolite.



85 BILLION neurons that 'just happened' to organize themselves so well.
The Ultimate Fairy Tale- 'Evolution'!
Argument from credulity form a cultist propaganda  site 

Was this suppose to be impressive ? Dodgy
"Change was inevitable"


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#64
RE: Devolution
(April 27, 2020 at 3:37 pm)SUNGULA Wrote: Argument from credulity form a cultist propaganda  site 

Was this suppose to be impressive ? Dodgy

And yet he claims to have his own thoughts.
teachings of the Bible are so muddled and self-contradictory that it was possible for Christians to happily burn heretics alive for five long centuries. It was even possible for the most venerated patriarchs of the Church, like St. Augustine and St. Thomas Aquinas, to conclude that heretics should be tortured (Augustine) or killed outright (Aquinas). Martin Luther and John Calvin advocated the wholesale murder of heretics, apostates, Jews, and witches. - Sam Harris, "Letter To A Christian Nation"
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#65
RE: Devolution
So, brains are complex therefore God must have done it?

No, there were replicators with no brains, then cells, eventually neuronal tissue then more then greater organization all over millions of years; no god required.

You've been duped and are now being willfully ignorant. It's ok I used to be that way too.
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#66
RE: Devolution
But muh huly buuk.
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#67
RE: Devolution
Since you like pictures this is how brains increased in complexity:

[Image: Figure1-EvenEvenSmaller.jpg?__SQUARESPAC...3505220035]

You can see from this image that there is a wide range of sizes and complexities readily apparent on the planet right now! Just extrapolate backwards and viola!
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#68
RE: Devolution
(April 27, 2020 at 2:53 pm)theMadJW Wrote:
(April 27, 2020 at 2:11 pm)Mister Agenda Wrote: We exist because natural selection conserves mutations that allow successful reproduction and culls mutations that lower the chances of successful reproduction, and ignores neutral mutations that can cause speciation from genetic drift alone.
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My, that person or thing you call 'Natural Selection' must be pretty damned smart to compare and analyze all such processes in so many organisms!
All Praise 'Natural' Selection- the God of Atheists!

Evolution has nothing to do with (a)theism. Those are two separate issues

God(s) may exist and life has evolved on earth or not.
God(s) may not exist and life may has evolved on earth or not.
Completely unrelated.

Of course if you have been told that your idea of a god should be incompatible with the scientifically established fact of evolution*, thats your problem. And if, in case of such a conflict, you drop knowledge rather than an unsubstantiated belief, then your problem solving skills suck.


*yes, evolution is an observable fact: Random mutation, and speciation over time,  the theory of evolution as its commonly known is the explanation.

(April 27, 2020 at 3:31 pm)theMadJW Wrote: 85 BILLION neurons that 'just happened' to organize themselves so well.
Argument from numbers.
Argument from incredulity.
Is particularly easy to fall for this fallacy if you are particualrly ignorant, because your lack of knowledge increases the chance of stuff being over the top of your head, generally speaking of course.

Your lack of imagination is only indicative of.....your lack of imagination.
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#69
RE: Devolution
(April 26, 2020 at 8:19 pm)theMadJW Wrote:
(April 26, 2020 at 6:56 pm)Abaddon_ire Wrote: There is nothing random about it.


Sure. But chew toys are useful under current circumstances.

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MY, what an impressive and thought-provoking answer...yawn
Diversion and accusation from one saying NOTHING.....

So this was the post you chose to focus on? Pro tip, ignore the chaff and pay attention to the wheat if you want a productive conversation.
I'm not anti-Christian. I'm anti-stupid.
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#70
RE: Devolution
(April 27, 2020 at 3:40 pm)Rhizomorph13 Wrote: So, brains are complex therefore God must have done it?

No, there were replicators with no brains, then cells, eventually neuronal tissue then more then greater organization all over millions of years; no god required.

You've been duped and are now being willfully ignorant. It's ok I used to be that way too.

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Do DO know what "organization" means, don't you?
It's not just the complexity but how they are ORGANIZED.
No random order resulting in little.
THEN they hook up to all parts of the body, REGULATING them!

It's a Masterpiece of Design.

But, I know- it's just a Wonderful Accident to you....

(April 27, 2020 at 3:46 pm)Deesse23 Wrote:
(April 27, 2020 at 2:53 pm)theMadJW Wrote: --------------------------------------------------
My, that person or thing you call 'Natural Selection' must be pretty damned smart to compare and analyze all such processes in so many organisms!
All Praise 'Natural' Selection- the God of Atheists!

Evolution has nothing to do with (a)theism. Those are two separate issues

God(s) may exist and life has evolved on earth or not.
God(s) may not exist and life may has evolved on earth or not.
Completely unrelated.

Of course if you have been told that your idea of a god should be incompatible with the scientifically established fact of evolution*, thats your problem. And if, in case of such a conflict, you drop knowledge rather than an unsubstantiated belief, then your problem solving skills suck.


*yes, evolution is an observable fact: Random mutation, and speciation over time,  the theory of evolution as its commonly known is the explanation.

(April 27, 2020 at 3:31 pm)theMadJW Wrote: 85 BILLION neurons that 'just happened' to organize themselves so well.
Argument from numbers.
Argument from incredulity.
Is particularly easy to fall for this fallacy if you are particualrly ignorant, because your lack of knowledge increases the chance of stuff being over the top of your head, generally speaking of course.

Your lack of imagination is only indicative of.....your lack of imagination.
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Well, at least you have gotten to the bottom of Evolution! Imagination!
The Atheists choice to Knowledge!

(April 27, 2020 at 3:43 pm)Rhizomorph13 Wrote: Since you like pictures this is how brains increased in complexity:

[Image: Figure1-EvenEvenSmaller.jpg?__SQUARESPAC...3505220035]

You can see from this image that there is a wide range of sizes and complexities readily apparent on the planet right now! Just extrapolate backwards and viola!
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Yes- then- VIOLA- you have the funniest of all Theories!
BTW- silly image.
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