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RE: American Presidents.
June 15, 2009 at 4:23 am
(June 14, 2009 at 6:06 pm)leo-rcc Wrote: Kyu, You just could have said yes or no to Bozo's question, specifically after he asked point blank"Post 31 asks you whether you support Obama's attempt to provide affordable universal healthcare for the American people.".
Leo, I said to him "I mean sure he's an eloquent man and I'm fairly confident he'll do a good job at least by my political ideals" ... yes I care (very much) about the UK health system, I consider it to be one of the finest things this country has ever devised and am deeply upset about it being fucked over by successive administrations (I get private health care at work and I always refuse it ... causes all kinds of trouble) but the truth is I'm not American and I don't give a rat's arse about the US health care system.
As far as I am concerned I HAVE answered Bozo.
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RE: American Presidents.
June 15, 2009 at 2:31 pm
(This post was last modified: June 15, 2009 at 2:35 pm by bozo.)
To review what has been occuring:-
post 29- I express the hope that Obama succeeds in rolling out affordable healthcare for America.
post 30- Kyu responds by not mentioning healthcare but quotes Ali-G which is apparently humourous, but could be construed differently if you aren't familiar with Ali-G so I later ask for an explanation ( post 40 ).
post 31- I ask Kyu whether he supports the initiative.
post32- No answer from Kyu, just sarcasm.
post 33- I express frustration.
post 34- more Kyu sarcasm.
post 35- I accuse Kyu of not answering my questions.
post 39- More Kyu sarcasm and insults.
post 40- I refer Kyu to my unanswered question in post 31 and seek clarification of the Ali-G QUOTE.
Post 43- Kyu responds but doesn't answer.
post 44- I repeat the questions.
post 45- Kyu responds with no answers but more insults.
post 51- Kyu finally answers on healthcare for America......but answers Leo.rcc not me.
That's it folks, now tell me who is in the wrong in this?
(June 14, 2009 at 7:26 pm)Tiberius Wrote: (June 14, 2009 at 6:10 pm)bozo Wrote: No surprise which side you take. On the odd ocasion, I can remember 1, where you and Kyu were at odds, both of you kept the gloves very much on....neither of you argued as you would have with, let me see, me, for example.
Kyu has not answered my question, so don't preach to me. Erm, I take you have never read any of the Operating System threads, where Kyu, brother of Gates and wielder of the shield of Windows takes on myself, who flies the flag of Torvalds with my sword of Linux.
He did answer your question, multiple times, and considering that he said "I'm fairly confident he'll do a good job at least by my political ideals" before you even asked the question, I don't see how your response of "same old" is justifiable in any way! You asked a question, Kyu pointed out that he had already answered it. You started this. You ask a question, you got an answer. That should have been the end of it, but for some reason you seem to like getting in the last word.
go to post 52. I look forward to your apology ( I wish! )
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June 15, 2009 at 4:00 pm
You know part of me says I should just back off but part of me (the worst part I feel) says I should just go for the jugular ... and there's this little voice over my shoulder saying, "Go for it.....! so let's do that then eh? 
(June 15, 2009 at 2:31 pm)bozo Wrote: post 29- I express the hope that Obama succeeds in rolling out affordable healthcare for America.
post 30- Kyu responds by not mentioning healthcare but quotes Ali-G which is apparently humourous, but could be construed differently if you aren't familiar with Ali-G so I later ask for an explanation ( post 40 ).
post 31- I ask Kyu whether he supports the initiative.
post32- No answer from Kyu, just sarcasm.
post 33- I express frustration.
post 34- more Kyu sarcasm.
post 35- I accuse Kyu of not answering my questions.
post 39- More Kyu sarcasm and insults.
post 40- I refer Kyu to my unanswered question in post 31 and seek clarification of the Ali-G QUOTE.
Post 43- Kyu responds but doesn't answer.
post 44- I repeat the questions.
post 45- Kyu responds with no answers but more insults.
post 51- Kyu finally answers on healthcare for America......but answers Leo.rcc not me.
You see even from the very first you get it wrong don't you?
The real story (and it's worth noting there's no love lost between Bozo and I so the clash between us is not, as Bozo would have everyone else believe, purely a result of this discussion but arises from similar clashes in the past)[/b]
Post 30
I ask why it is everyone is so hung up on Obama, why it is they think he's so great ... I didn't actually respond to your post at all. As it happens I admire Obama, he's an intelligent, dignified and politically astute operator I paraphrased Ali G because it seems to me that the thing people focus on is his colour (but you were apparently too wrapped up in being in ass to understand that).
Post 31 to 35
Bozo repeatedly asks the same question, repeatedly gets the same response (that I have answered) and it's worth noting that whilst I was sarcastic in tone Bozo disingenuously fails to mention the sarcasm in his own responses. In post 39 Bozo claims I do not answer direct questions.
Post 37 & 40
Padraic opines on Bozo's debating skills and Bozo is sarcastic in return. Also in post 40 Bozo disingenuously claims that Obama's health care initiative was the subject of the thread (in fact his opening post was one line, "OK so the first black man made President. How long will it take to get an atheist of whatever colour/sex elected?"). He also asks me to explain my Ali G comment.
Post 39
I invite Bozo to provide a link to a question I apparently did not answer (and I'm sure I must have at some point) but interestingly he never does so.
Post 41
Leo-rcc comments on Bozo's lack of clarity.
Post 43
I again point out (no sarcasm) that I had answered the question and quoted one of my later (admittedly sarcastic) answers. I commented that my Ali G comment was humour (*and personally I think the humour was self-evident) and asked if he'd never heard of him.
Post 44 to 48
Bozo tells me I'm tiresome and again asks me to answer the question I was not even answering in the first place. I respond caustically, repeat my answer and tell him if that isn't good enough then he can shove it. Losing patience at this point due to this thread and another (where Bozo refused point blank to justify why it was that he felt the European led slaughter of Native Americans was different from the ancestors of the Native Americans slaughtering the original denizens of America) I refuse to explain the Ali G humour. I also request that he stops quoting huge segments of other people's posts and adding only 1 or 2 lines of his own ... predictably he snaps back at me. Adrian and Leo comment in slightly different ways on the altercation. Bozo snaps at Adrian and explains to Leo (which interestingly is much like what he accuses me of doing above).
Post 51
I answer Leo's criticisms pointing out that I had answered Bozo's question.
So there you have it ... 2 versions of the same event. TBH I don't really care what others think of me (OK I care about what some people think of me ... the mods and a few such as Padraic, Jason Jarred and others) but most importantly I wanted to set the record straight, to show that Bozo's distortoverse version wasn't the only way it might have happened.
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RE: American Presidents.
June 16, 2009 at 2:09 pm
(June 13, 2009 at 1:30 pm)Kyuuketsuki Wrote: Why is everyone so hung up on Obama, so convinced he's great? I mean sure he's an eloquent man and I'm fairly confident he'll do a good job at least by my political ideals but quite frankly he's what ... 5 months in? It's like making a greatest hits CD called the best of 2009 in June ... er ... oh ... they do that too don't they?
To paraphrase Ali G, "Is it because he is black?"
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After 8 years of us Americans having that born again Jesus freak of a monkey in office we're pretty god damn happy we have a new president. Anyone would be great.........except Sarah Palin, yikes!
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June 16, 2009 at 3:53 pm
(June 16, 2009 at 2:09 pm)binny Wrote: (June 13, 2009 at 1:30 pm)Kyuuketsuki Wrote: Why is everyone so hung up on Obama, so convinced he's great? I mean sure he's an eloquent man and I'm fairly confident he'll do a good job at least by my political ideals but quite frankly he's what ... 5 months in? It's like making a greatest hits CD called the best of 2009 in June ... er ... oh ... they do that too don't they?
After 8 years of us Americans having that born again Jesus freak of a monkey in office we're pretty god damn happy we have a new president. Anyone would be great.........except Sarah Palin, yikes!
Amen Sister! 
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RE: American Presidents.
June 17, 2009 at 9:14 am
Don't worry, we still might get Palin in '12
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RE: American Presidents.
June 17, 2009 at 9:19 am
I truly am jumping for utmost joy at that thought :S :S
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RE: American Presidents.
June 17, 2009 at 4:14 pm
(June 15, 2009 at 2:31 pm)bozo Wrote: go to post 52. I look forward to your apology ( I wish! ) What on Earth have I got to apologise for? You are in the wrong and you are simply too stubborn to admit it.
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June 18, 2009 at 3:09 pm
(June 17, 2009 at 4:14 pm)Tiberius Wrote: (June 15, 2009 at 2:31 pm)bozo Wrote: go to post 52. I look forward to your apology ( I wish! ) What on Earth have I got to apologise for? You are in the wrong and you are simply too stubborn to admit it.
I have presented my evidence and I am not in the wrong.I don't expect you to either agree or apologise.
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June 18, 2009 at 8:02 pm
(January 20, 2009 at 6:18 pm)bozo Wrote: OK so the first black man made President. How long will it take to get an atheist of whatever colour/sex elected?
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