Covid 19 conspiracies dump

[Rev. Rye]

Covid is not dangerous huh?

And that chart is four months old by this point, so add something like 200k deaths to the COVID count.

[Irreligious Atheist]

Most of the population has chosen to get voluntarily vaccinated. An overwhelming majority of older people and people in poor health have voluntarily gotten vaccinated. This is part of the reason why mandates don't seem necessary. Why force young people to get it when they are extremely likely to come out of it just fine, and death is very, very unlikely for them? I don't see the need to force them, when the people in the most vulnerable groups have already gotten the vaccine and therefore have a decent level of protection from covid. You can say that the virus is going to get passed around more often with less people vaccinated, but everyone is getting Omicron regardless right now. This virus will find a way to spread whether people are vaccinated or not.

[arewethereyet]

Most of the population has chosen to get voluntarily vaccinated. An overwhelming majority of older people and people in poor health have voluntarily gotten vaccinated. This is part of the reason why mandates don't seem necessary. Why force young people to get it when they are extremely likely to come out of it just fine, and death is very, very unlikely for them? I don't see the need to force them, when the people in the most vulnerable groups have already gotten the vaccine and therefore have a decent level of protection from covid. You can say that the virus is going to get passed around more often with less people vaccinated, but everyone is getting Omicron regardless right now. This virus will find a way to spread whether people are vaccinated or not.

I don't think you are so stupid that you can't grasp that vaccinating younger people can keep them from catching COVID and then passing it to people who are unable to take the shots.

But then again, perhaps you are.

[Irreligious Atheist]

Everyone or practically everyone is going to catch covid, no matter how many people are vaccinated. If someone can't take the vaccine and doesn't feel comfortable coming into work, let them work from home or they can get another job where they can work from home. That sounds more reasonable to me than forcing millions against their will to do something.

[Rev. Rye]

Everyone or practically everyone is going to catch covid, no matter how many people are vaccinated. If someone can't take the vaccine and doesn't feel comfortable coming into work, let them work from home or they can get another job where they can work from home. That sounds more reasonable to me than forcing millions against their will to do something.

Just so we’re clear, the amount of people who legitimately can’t take the vaccine is extremely small.

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Most of the population has chosen to get voluntarily vaccinated. An overwhelming majority of older people and people in poor health have voluntarily gotten vaccinated. This is part of the reason why mandates don't seem necessary. Why force young people to get it when they are extremely likely to come out of it just fine, and death is very, very unlikely for them? I don't see the need to force them, when the people in the most vulnerable groups have already gotten the vaccine and therefore have a decent level of protection from covid. You can say that the virus is going to get passed around more often with less people vaccinated, but everyone is getting Omicron regardless right now. This virus will find a way to spread whether people are vaccinated or not.

Once again: you’re still less likely to get complications from the disease if you get vaccinated if that’s the only controlling factor. Especially if everybody’s going to get it eventually. And if young people are less likely to die or get complications from COVID, the vaccine makes it even less likely.

With previous case of COVID: Vaxxed>unvaxxed
No previous case of COVID: Vaxxed>unvaxxed

If you had the disease before, it’s belt and braces immunity. If you didn’t, you become less likely to get a serious case. Unless your immune system is that shit, there is no circumstance where getting vaccinated doesn’t give you an edge. Maybe if you get a severe side effect, but the odds of that are very small (like 1 in 4000 small, probably even smaller if you manage to control for mere correlation that isn’t causation) and I don’t know if you can predict whether you’re the 1 or the 3999 (fun fact: I’m one of the people who inevitably gets the flu whenever they get the flu vaccine, but I only got mild side effects from the third dose), but the odds are almost certainly in your favor.

And while a good-sized majority of the most vulnerable in the population have gotten the vaccine, not enough of the general population have gotten it to reach herd immunity.

[Deesse23]

On one hand IA admits that eveyone will get COVID, on the other he proudly announces a 99% survival rate.

Have forgotten my calc, but whats 1% of 300 million? 

[The Architect Of Fate]

Everyone or practically everyone is going to catch covid, no matter how many people are vaccinated. If someone can't take the vaccine and doesn't feel comfortable coming into work, let them work from home or they can get another job where they can work from home. That sounds more reasonable to me than forcing millions against their will to do something.

Just so we’re clear, the amount of people who legitimately  can’t take the vaccine is extremely small.

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Most of the population has chosen to get voluntarily vaccinated. An overwhelming majority of older people and people in poor health have voluntarily gotten vaccinated. This is part of the reason why mandates don't seem necessary. Why force young people to get it when they are extremely likely to come out of it just fine, and death is very, very unlikely for them? I don't see the need to force them, when the people in the most vulnerable groups have already gotten the vaccine and therefore have a decent level of protection from covid. You can say that the virus is going to get passed around more often with less people vaccinated, but everyone is getting Omicron regardless right now. This virus will find a way to spread whether people are vaccinated or not.

Once again: you’re still less likely to get complications from the disease if you get vaccinated if that’s the only controlling factor. Especially if everybody’s going to get it eventually. And if young people are less likely to die or get complications from COVID, the vaccine makes it even less likely.

With previous case of COVID: Vaxxed>unvaxxed
No previous case of COVID: Vaxxed>unvaxxed

If you had the disease before, it’s belt and braces immunity. If you didn’t, you become less likely to get a serious case. Unless your immune system is that shit, there is no circumstance where getting vaccinated doesn’t give you an edge. Maybe if you get a severe side effect, but the odds of that are very small (like 1 in 4000 small, probably even smaller if you manage to control for mere correlation that isn’t causation) and I don’t know if you can predict whether you’re the 1 or the 3999 (fun fact: I’m one of the people who inevitably gets the flu whenever they get the flu vaccine, but I only got mild side effects from the third dose), but the odds are almost certainly in your favor.

And while a good-sized majority of the most vulnerable in the population have gotten the vaccine, not enough of the general population have gotten it to reach herd immunity.

Behold a man talking facts and logic to a screeching idealogue

[The Architect Of Fate]

On one hand IA admits that eveyone will get COVID, on the other he proudly announces a 99% survival rate.

Have forgotten my calc, but whats 1% of 300 million? 

Too many 

https://www.forbes.com/sites/marshallshe...905fc8138b

[BrianSoddingBoru4]

Everyone or practically everyone is going to catch covid, no matter how many people are vaccinated. If someone can't take the vaccine and doesn't feel comfortable coming into work, let them work from home or they can get another job where they can work from home. That sounds more reasonable to me than forcing millions against their will to do something.

You can't have it both ways. Young people - those who you feel don't need to be vaccinated - are the group least likely to a) have a job they can do from home, and b) have skills they use to get another job they can do from home. So, for example, McDonald's (which would have fallen under the vaccine mandate), can simply send all those young people you don't think need to be vaccinated home, where they can fill burger and chips orders via Zoom?

Yes, that's reasonable.

Boru

[The Architect Of Fate]

Everyone or practically everyone is going to catch covid, no matter how many people are vaccinated. If someone can't take the vaccine and doesn't feel comfortable coming into work, let them work from home or they can get another job where they can work from home. That sounds more reasonable to me than forcing millions against their will to do something.

Yeah, force one group of people to work from home rather than enforce a policy that's been acceptable in countless other situations because idiots are scared of getting a safe and effective vaccine. Yeah that sounds totally reasonable 

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Everyone or practically everyone is going to catch covid, no matter how many people are vaccinated. If someone can't take the vaccine and doesn't feel comfortable coming into work, let them work from home or they can get another job where they can work from home. That sounds more reasonable to me than forcing millions against their will to do something.

You can't have it both ways. Young people - those who you feel don't need to be vaccinated - are the group least likely to a) have a job they can do from home, and b) have skills they use to get another job they can do from home. So, for example, McDonald's (which would have fallen under the vaccine mandate), can simply send all those young people you don't think need to be vaccinated home, where they can fill burger and chips orders via Zoom?

Yes, that's reasonable.

Boru

Yeah, we have to punish immunocompromised people to accommodate irrational idiots. Yup, that sounds totally reasonable 

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Everyone or practically everyone is going to catch covid, no matter how many people are vaccinated.

Whether or not that is true is irrelevant frankly getting the population vaccinated has the best outcomes period and those who refuse are without excuse