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Are executions making the US look bad?
May 16, 2022 at 8:11 pm
The only other Western democracy who executes criminals (all of whom are mass murderers) is Japan, usually, just after Christmas on the same day; on the other hand, the United States starts to execute just after the first week of the New Year (sometimes a few days after January 1) but ending almost always before December 15th.
With the war raging in the Ukraine, are executions harming the credibility of the United States as being a leader in moral and humanistic values?
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RE: Are executions making the US look bad?
May 16, 2022 at 8:24 pm
(May 16, 2022 at 8:11 pm)Jehanne Wrote: The only other Western democracy who executes criminals (all of whom are mass murderers) is Japan, usually, just after Christmas on the same day; on the other hand, the United States starts to execute just after the first week of the New Year (sometimes a few days after January 1) but ending almost always before December 15th.
With the war raging in the Ukraine, are executions harming the credibility of the United States as being a leader in moral and humanistic values?
We certainly look askance at the US for continuing to execute people. It’s really a minor factor (compared with their treatment of immigrants, their institutional racism, their evident corruption, their economic imperialism, and so on) in their loss of credibility.
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RE: Are executions making the US look bad?
May 16, 2022 at 9:10 pm
Seems to be that executions couldn't really make us look good. Kindof baked in, isn't it?
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RE: Are executions making the US look bad?
May 16, 2022 at 9:57 pm
Nah, just makes the other countries look like pansies.
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RE: Are executions making the US look bad?
May 16, 2022 at 10:07 pm
Probably not because movies glamorized it. If it was done in France or Belgium or Germany then it would seem cold and inhuman, but when it's in the US then people see it as Sean Penn and Susan Sarandon waltzing around the electric chair.
teachings of the Bible are so muddled and self-contradictory that it was possible for Christians to happily burn heretics alive for five long centuries. It was even possible for the most venerated patriarchs of the Church, like St. Augustine and St. Thomas Aquinas, to conclude that heretics should be tortured (Augustine) or killed outright (Aquinas). Martin Luther and John Calvin advocated the wholesale murder of heretics, apostates, Jews, and witches. - Sam Harris, "Letter To A Christian Nation"
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RE: Are executions making the US look bad?
May 16, 2022 at 10:10 pm
(May 16, 2022 at 9:10 pm)The Grand Nudger Wrote: Seems to be that executions couldn't really make us look good. Kindof baked in, isn't it?
I admit that my question was somewhat rhetorical, but, if everyone agrees that executing criminals makes the US look bad in the eyes of the World, why do we continue to execute criminals?
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RE: Are executions making the US look bad?
May 16, 2022 at 11:05 pm
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Because better than half of us agree with the death penalty, presumably, some of them even as they acknowledge that it's not a great look.
https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/20...n-the-u-s/
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RE: Are executions making the US look bad?
May 17, 2022 at 12:45 am
Hear me out. Sexecutions; Death by snu snu. Everyone wins.
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RE: Are executions making the US look bad?
May 17, 2022 at 4:00 am
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(May 16, 2022 at 9:57 pm)Neo-Scholastic Wrote: Nah, just makes the other countries look like pansies.
If that's the price of eliminating the possibility of the State executing innocent people, I'll take all the pansification you can dish out.
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RE: Are executions making the US look bad?
May 17, 2022 at 6:13 am
(May 17, 2022 at 12:45 am)Nay_Sayer Wrote: Hear me out. Sexecutions; Death by snu snu. Everyone wins.
I am tempted to copy and paste your post into Google translate. Can you clarify?
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