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RE: Proxy war in Ukraine?
November 7, 2022 at 1:50 pm
Quote:It was the case of, "The enemy of my enemy..."
Apparently roll over and die because that's asking Ukraine to do.
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RE: Proxy war in Ukraine?
November 7, 2022 at 2:01 pm
(November 7, 2022 at 1:45 pm)Helios Wrote: (November 7, 2022 at 1:19 pm)Jehanne Wrote: During World War II, Germany was fighting two wars, the "good war" against Stalin and the "bad war" against the Allies. You do realize the point of the invasion of the Soviet Union was the ethnic cleansing of the Slavic peoples.
Stalin, after the "liberation" of various German death camps, began using them for his own extermination program. How many human beings did he murder as compared to Hitler?
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RE: Proxy war in Ukraine?
November 7, 2022 at 2:04 pm
(November 7, 2022 at 1:50 pm)Helios Wrote: Quote:It was the case of, "The enemy of my enemy..."
Apparently roll over and die because that's asking Ukraine to do.
As an United States citizen, I will not fight & die (likely, it will be the latter) for and/or in Ukraine. I already told you this in the other thread. What is it that you want from America?
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RE: Proxy war in Ukraine?
November 7, 2022 at 2:13 pm
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No need, the ukranians are doing splendidly in defense of their own country. They actually turn a bunch of foreign volunteer types away. Thought crossed my mind back when it popped off, but they don't need a broken old joe like me, and I've got too much I'm responsible for here. Not for nothing, we have alot of the same problems, anyway, just (marginally) less shooting.
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RE: Proxy war in Ukraine?
November 7, 2022 at 2:15 pm
(November 7, 2022 at 2:01 pm)Jehanne Wrote: (November 7, 2022 at 1:45 pm)Helios Wrote: You do realize the point of the invasion of the Soviet Union was the ethnic cleansing of the Slavic peoples.
Stalin, after the "liberation" of various German death camps, began using them for his own extermination program. How many human beings did he murder as compared to Hitler? Considering Hitlers goal was to kill ALL the Slavic peoples i would say Hitler still the bigger dick here. Thus the idea his invasion of the Soviet Union was a good thing is very off.
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RE: Proxy war in Ukraine?
November 7, 2022 at 2:15 pm
And, that's great! As long as it is understood that such is their war, I have no issues!!
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RE: Proxy war in Ukraine?
November 7, 2022 at 2:16 pm
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(November 7, 2022 at 2:01 pm)Jehanne Wrote: (November 7, 2022 at 1:45 pm)Helios Wrote: You do realize the point of the invasion of the Soviet Union was the ethnic cleansing of the Slavic peoples.
Stalin, after the "liberation" of various German death camps, began using them for his own extermination program. How many human beings did he murder as compared to Hitler?
Quite a few more than Zelensky...in fact, a good number of the folks stalin murdered were...ukranians.....
Why do you ask?
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RE: Proxy war in Ukraine?
November 7, 2022 at 2:16 pm
(November 7, 2022 at 2:04 pm)Jehanne Wrote: (November 7, 2022 at 1:50 pm)Helios Wrote: Apparently roll over and die because that's asking Ukraine to do.
As an United States citizen, I will not fight & die (likely, it will be the latter) for and/or in Ukraine. I already told you this in the other thread. What is it that you want from America? No one proposing sending Americans to Ukraine. We need to keep doing what were doing.
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RE: Proxy war in Ukraine?
November 7, 2022 at 2:17 pm
(November 7, 2022 at 2:15 pm)Helios Wrote: (November 7, 2022 at 2:01 pm)Jehanne Wrote: Stalin, after the "liberation" of various German death camps, began using them for his own extermination program. How many human beings did he murder as compared to Hitler? Considering Hitlers goal was to kill ALL the Slavic peoples i would say Hitler still the bigger dick here. Thus the idea his invasion of the Soviet Union was a good thing is very off.
It was a dumb move that helped the Allies defeat him while helping to keep Stalin, another murderous tyrant, at bay.
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RE: Proxy war in Ukraine?
November 7, 2022 at 2:17 pm
(November 7, 2022 at 2:15 pm)Jehanne Wrote: And, that's great! As long as it is understood that such is their war, I have no issues!! Did anyone say otherwise...... 
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