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Does reading a lot of Wikipedia give people a wrong idea how science works?
#41
RE: Does reading a lot of Wikipedia give people a wrong idea how science works?
I read of a guy shooting a man with a rifle in a Huddle House, 18-24 months ago. I don't go looking for the outliers.
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#42
RE: Does reading a lot of Wikipedia give people a wrong idea how science works?
(August 28, 2023 at 10:58 am)FlatAssembler Wrote: How do you explain the fact that Switzerland, a country where the government gives a gun to every male at the age between 18 and 65, doesn't have a lot of mass shootings?

Those guns are issued as part of military reserve service, and can be withdrawn at any time upon the holder showing unstable mentality. That might play a part. Additionally, I'm sure that, being military, they undergo psychological evaluation before being inducted.

That's a far cry from American nutjobs.

A question in my own turn: do you think that it's a coincidence that the most gun-saturated culture in the world also has the most gun deaths not associated with civil war?

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#43
RE: Does reading a lot of Wikipedia give people a wrong idea how science works?
(August 28, 2023 at 12:08 pm)FlatAssembler Wrote:
(August 28, 2023 at 11:33 am)Ravenshire Wrote: (my bold)

Citation needed.

As we've seen, your opinions are rarely fact adjacent, let alone based on actual facts. Dodgy

ETA: You seem to be falling prey to the myth of "good guys with guns" who will allegedly stop bad guys with guns. They are a myth.

If that's not true, why it is that school shootings are far more common in California than in Texas (California being the state with the highest number of school shootings)? In Texas, teachers are usually armed. In California, teachers are almost never armed.

Teachers aren't "usually armed" here.

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#44
RE: Does reading a lot of Wikipedia give people a wrong idea how science works?
(August 28, 2023 at 10:58 am)FlatAssembler Wrote:
(August 28, 2023 at 9:49 am)Ravenshire Wrote: Yeah, because armed civilians can't possibly lead to daily mass shootings. Dodgy

Aha, so, the only reason you are not a mass-shooter is because gun control makes it more difficult to get a gun?

How do you explain the fact that Switzerland, a country where the government gives a gun to every male at the age between 18 and 65, doesn't have a lot of mass shootings?

How do you explain the fact that most mass shootings happen in gun-free zones?

The Swiss government does NOT give a gun to every male between 18 and 65. Guns are issued to active duty military personnel, about 100 000 people at any given moment, out of a population of nearly 9 million. And ammunition is not issued. Carry and acquisition permits are issued sparingly.

Boru
‘I can’t be having with this.’ - Esmeralda Weatherwax
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#45
RE: Does reading a lot of Wikipedia give people a wrong idea how science works?
(August 28, 2023 at 10:58 am)FlatAssembler Wrote:
(August 28, 2023 at 9:49 am)Ravenshire Wrote: Yeah, because armed civilians can't possibly lead to daily mass shootings. Dodgy

Aha, so, the only reason you are not a mass-shooter is because gun control makes it more difficult to get a gun?

How do you explain the fact that Switzerland, a country where the government gives a gun to every male at the age between 18 and 65, doesn't have a lot of mass shootings?

How do you explain the fact that most mass shootings happen in gun-free zones?

Can I hit you with a hammer?

Playing Cluedo with my mum while I was at Uni:

"You did WHAT?  With WHO?  WHERE???"
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#46
RE: Does reading a lot of Wikipedia give people a wrong idea how science works?
Mass shootings are carried out almost exclusively by armed civilians. How big a nut job does someone have to be to insist that arming more civilians will lead to fewer mass shootings?

Boru
‘I can’t be having with this.’ - Esmeralda Weatherwax
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#47
RE: Does reading a lot of Wikipedia give people a wrong idea how science works?
(August 27, 2023 at 2:24 pm)no one Wrote: Good thing about the sciences, it doesn't give a single flying fuck whether or not some, or all the dingleberries ideas about it are wrong. It's going to work regardless.

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#48
RE: Does reading a lot of Wikipedia give people a wrong idea how science works?
A superficial survey of Wikipedia might give someone the impression that it's (fill in the blank). That's what happens with superficial surveys.
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#49
RE: Does reading a lot of Wikipedia give people a wrong idea how science works?
(August 28, 2023 at 8:53 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: The Swiss government does NOT give a gun to every male between 18 and 65. Guns are issued to active duty military personnel, about 100 000 people at any given moment, out of a population of nearly 9 million. And ammunition is not issued. Carry and acquisition permits are issued sparingly.

Up to 12 billion bullets are sold in the USA annually. That means we can shoot every human being on Earth on average 1.5 times every year.
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#50
RE: Does reading a lot of Wikipedia give people a wrong idea how science works?
(August 28, 2023 at 8:28 pm)Thumpalumpacus Wrote:
(August 28, 2023 at 10:58 am)FlatAssembler Wrote: How do you explain the fact that Switzerland, a country where the government gives a gun to every male at the age between 18 and 65, doesn't have a lot of mass shootings?

Those guns are issued as part of military reserve service, and can be withdrawn at any time upon the holder showing unstable mentality. That might play a part. Additionally, I'm sure that, being military, they undergo psychological evaluation before being inducted.

That's a far cry from American nutjobs.

A question in my own turn: do you think that it's a coincidence that the most gun-saturated culture in the world also has the most gun deaths not associated with civil war?

Sorry for not responding for a while, I was working on my Bachelor thesis.
No, I don't think it's a coincidence. I think guns as a form of self defense are common sense to people and that if I were forced to live in a high-crime area (such as much of the US), I would also get a gun.
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