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Good exists - a Catholic comments
RE: Good exists - a Catholic comments
(October 28, 2023 at 9:34 pm)Barry Wrote:
(October 28, 2023 at 8:26 pm)Ahriman Wrote: I believe in God but I don't give a shit about religion. Religion is an unnecessary middle man. I formulate my own ideas and theories.

Many people have believed in God and formulated their own ideas and theories. Child sacrifice and temple prostitution was rife in ancient times. 
Jesus Christ came to help us work it all out. He might have some ideas that you can learn from.
God bless

It really seems like Jesus is just there to shut our party down. I don't want the party shut down, I want to keep partying.
"Imagination, life is your creation"
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RE: Good exists - a Catholic comments
(October 28, 2023 at 7:04 pm)Bucky Ball Wrote:
(October 28, 2023 at 5:30 pm)Barry Wrote: Hi Boru,
The Bible story is full of human flaws, but not divine flaws. Jesus tells us to “be perfect like God”. It’s a big call. But striving to achieve it is the only way to happiness.

What an ignorant idiot. The children who were abused by your clergy would had FAR FAR happier lives without you church.
AND in fact, your Catechism makes allowances for anyone who honestly follows their conscience, and stay away from your organized cult.
There is no evidence that Catholics are any happier than Buddhists or anyone else. What do you take us for ? Sheeple ?

In fact, agnostic atheists, Chinese Tao mysticism, St. John of the Cross,(Dark Night of the Soul),  St. Theresa of Avila, (the Interior Castle), the English Medieval mystic (the Cloud of Unknowing),
and Medieval and modern Benedictine/Cistercian (infused contemplation, see Thomas Merton) ALL end up practically, in the very same place. Some day, you should study yourself some beligion.

Actually there are divine flaws, ... lots of them. 
The god in the OT keeps making covenants that will last forever, then, oops they don't. 
He creates beings that are flawed ... a perfect being should be able to get it right, doncha think. 
The angels "fell", but nothing needed, they don't get redeemed. They go to hell. 
Then the ancient angry deity needs to send his son to die, so he can feel better, despite being "merciful".  
He creates a whole race, then is sorry he did it, and tries to drown all nis new pets.  
The gods in the NT are supposed to answer prayers said in Jebus' name. 
Never happens. Such a lame excuse for a religion.
You can't actually think that a Jesus (if there was one) would approve of the clergy parading around in high-priced red silk dresses,
and fish-lip hats, like the god Dagon wore, do you ?
(I do admit I have some red socks I got at the store in Rome where the cardinals buy their dresses).  They're *fabulous*.
There's a reason why 10 % of Amerians are ex-Catholics.
Hi Bucky
Always nice to hear your unfriendly comments. It’s seems atheism doesn’t make you a happy person. The Old Testament isn’t supposed to be taken literally. Don’t you know!
Yes God and angels are a challenge, but not as much of a challenge as believing the world just happened out of nothing with no cause. 
The reasons why so many people are ex Catholics are varied. Some never really were eg just baptised but never believed or practised, many were badly taught, some had bad experiences in the church, and many just don’t want to follow the teachings, especially on morality. 
None of these reasons mean Jesus Christ isn’t God. 
God bless
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RE: Good exists - a Catholic comments
(October 28, 2023 at 9:46 pm)Ahriman Wrote:
(October 28, 2023 at 9:34 pm)Barry Wrote: Many people have believed in God and formulated their own ideas and theories. Child sacrifice and temple prostitution was rife in ancient times. 
Jesus Christ came to help us work it all out. He might have some ideas that you can learn from.
God bless

It really seems like Jesus is just there to shut our party down. I don't want the party shut down, I want to keep partying.

What’s your party Ahriman? What did Jesus say that you don’t like? Convince me.
God bless
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RE: Good exists - a Catholic comments
(October 28, 2023 at 9:59 pm)Barry Wrote:
(October 28, 2023 at 9:46 pm)Ahriman Wrote: It really seems like Jesus is just there to shut our party down. I don't want the party shut down, I want to keep partying.

What’s your party Ahriman? What did Jesus say that you don’t like? Convince me.
God bless

Jesus wants us to renounce sin, turn the other cheek, and be more like Him? Pretty tall order for a bunch of retarded monkey people, don't you think? Jesus' teachings don't seem unrealistic to you?
"Imagination, life is your creation"
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RE: Good exists - a Catholic comments
(October 28, 2023 at 9:30 pm)Barry Wrote:
(October 28, 2023 at 5:43 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: And again you miss the point. Not to worry - I’m here to help:

The Catholic Church practiced, condoned, and covered up the sexual abuse of children. In furtherance of this, they broke - institutionally - at least three commandments, dozens of other biblical structures, and who knows how many Church rules. It’s no good putting the blame on a few rogue priests, since the Church hierarchy was involved in the scandal root and branch.

And yet you have the bollocks to call this organization of kiddie fuckers ‘the one true church’, which I was taught in catechism class and Sunday school, means the Church was ‘ordained by God and sustained by the Holy Spirit’.

And yet you also claimed that the Church is for the good of mankind. This naturally leads to the question, ‘Why would God create an instrument of salvation that brutalizes children?’.

Laughable.

Boru

Hi Boru
Nice to hear from you again. Child abuse is prevalent in sporting institutions, schools, scouts, other religions, acting, but mostly carried out by family members and close family friends. Yes, I mentioned it has been happening in the Church and there have been scandalous coverups, it happens anywhere there are human beings. But that does not detract one bit from the teachings of Jesus Christ and the Church.
But God gave us free will. And that means we can defy God and sin. And deny God and pretend the world just happened one day. 
God bless

The Gordian Knots you christers will tie yourselves in to excuse the evils perpetrated by your church is simultaneously fascinating and utterly fucking repulsive.
Thief and assassin for hire. Member in good standing of the Rogues Guild.
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RE: Good exists - a Catholic comments
Barry, who thinks that the world just happened one day? Really give this some thought.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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RE: Good exists - a Catholic comments
(October 28, 2023 at 10:04 pm)Ahriman Wrote:
(October 28, 2023 at 9:59 pm)Barry Wrote: What’s your party Ahriman? What did Jesus say that you don’t like? Convince me.
God bless

Jesus wants us to renounce sin, turn the other cheek, and be more like Him? Pretty tall order for a bunch of retarded monkey people, don't you think? Jesus' teachings don't seem unrealistic to you?
Not at all, but they have to be read in context. And aren’t easy.
But Ahriman, what’s the party you say Jesus is denying you? I’m sincerely interested to know. 
God bless
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RE: Good exists - a Catholic comments
(October 28, 2023 at 10:09 pm)Barry Wrote:
(October 28, 2023 at 10:04 pm)Ahriman Wrote: Jesus wants us to renounce sin, turn the other cheek, and be more like Him? Pretty tall order for a bunch of retarded monkey people, don't you think? Jesus' teachings don't seem unrealistic to you?
Not at all, but they have to be read in context. And aren’t easy.
But Ahriman, what’s the party you say Jesus is denying you? I’m sincerely interested to know. 
God bless

I am a sexually flexible male who likes to have gay sex. I doubt Jesus would like that very much.
"Imagination, life is your creation"
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RE: Good exists - a Catholic comments
(October 28, 2023 at 10:06 pm)The Grand Nudger Wrote: Barry, who thinks that the world just happened one day?  Really give this some thought.

Hi o Grand one, nice to hear from you.
God could have, or taken 14 billion years. Or one trillion trillion years.  6 in Genesis is most unlikely. Time is irrelevant to God. 
How do you think it began? Really give this some thought. 
The easy answer is God. But then we are answerable to a higher power. And our increasingly secular world doesn’t like that option. 
Hence atheism is rife. 
God bless
Barry
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RE: Good exists - a Catholic comments
(October 28, 2023 at 10:14 pm)Ahriman Wrote:
(October 28, 2023 at 10:09 pm)Barry Wrote: Not at all, but they have to be read in context. And aren’t easy.
But Ahriman, what’s the party you say Jesus is denying you? I’m sincerely interested to know. 
God bless

I am a sexually flexible male who likes to have gay sex. I doubt Jesus would like that very much.

Hi Ahriman,
That sounds complicated to me. I agree, Jesus wouldn’t think that’s a best option for anyone. I’ll pray for you and hope you find happiness and salvation in your complicated life. 
God bless, good luck, Barry
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