resistance is futile, you will be assimilated

[Mister Agenda]

If God, then the universe.
The universe, therefore God.

This is the fallacy of affirming the consequent.

Here is the same 'logic' used to prove something different.

If I am Elijah Wood, I am 5'6" tall.
I am 5'6" tall. Therefore I am Elijah Wood.

The problem with my use of this form of argument is that although it's remotely possible that am actually Elijah Wood, there are many other possible explanations for me being 5'6". Same with your argument of 'look all around' and God.

(Bold mind)

Cool! Can I remotely have your possible autograph?

Boru

Absovirtually!

[BrianSoddingBoru4]

Theists confuse obedience for love. Thus, they don't always love either.

I agree.

When God tells me to do something... I always question him... as to why, and if I can improve the commission.

I don't blindly obey God.

Sorry to hear about the voices in your head. Have you tried psychiatric care? I’m give to understand that some of the newer meds are pretty effective.

Boru

[SubtleVirtue]

I like that argument.

but, in the bible, who does God not love?


"those loving violence, my soul certainly hates"

The bible depicts a deity that indulges in, and encourages in its pets, indiscriminate violence, and murder, endorses slavery, and commits global genocide, to name but a few, luckily there isn't a shred of objective evidence any deity exists or is even possible, but the one depicted in the bible is  amoral, barbarically sadistic, and indifferently cruel megalomaniac. 

You're selling a product you can't demonstrate exists or is possible, and that product is morally repugnant anyway.

I agree.

I don't actually worship Jehovah or even universal consciousness. I merely prove their existence.

What I do worship is morality!

[Ahriman]

I agree.

When God tells me to do something... I always question him... as to why, and if I can improve the commission.

I don't blindly obey God.

Sorry to hear about the voices in your head. Have you tried psychiatric care? I’m give to understand that some of the newer meds are pretty effective.

Boru

They're not effective at treating religious ideation. If anything, they almost increase it.

[SubtleVirtue]

Energy is (1) eternal, (2) omnipresent, (3) omnipotent, (4) consciousness.

3 nope
4 BS

I corrected Christopher Langan's Cognitive Theoretic Model of the Universe. I have more inventions than most people. I also have most of the formal proofs of God.

Those three things suggest that I am one of the smartest people in the world.

nop

Do you know of things that things are made of besides energy?

matter, literally all of it. Matter is not "made of" energy, but equivalent. What you said is ambiguous, at best, indicating your lack of knowledge of wtf you are talking about.

Does every cause involve energy?

Is energy self-causal?

Is self-causal a synonym for self-deterministic?

Is self-determinism consciousness?

Are you going to back up your silly claims or will you keep providing us with word salad and silly equivocations? While those arent quite the same, they are interchangable, just like energy and matter.

Actually, I believe (thanks to Christopher Langan) that the universe is self-deterministic.

Langan is full of shit, and himself, just like you. He is dispensing word salad, just like you.

byw, I did prove that the universe is self-deterministic.

Nope

Christopher Langan, John Haglin, Baroch Spinoza, and Richard Emerson are experts that agree with me.

Please list Langans credential, other than being a bouncer.

Ron Wyatt discovered the remains of Sodom and Gomorrah. and Kent Hovind claimed Dinosaurs lived at the same time as man.

I proved Sodom and Gomorrah are evidence of God's very real interactions with man.

And I pointed out that the blood cells and blood vessels in Dinosaur bones is evidence that they are not millions of years old.

Wyatt is a crank and Hovind a con man (and wife beater). The only thing you proved is that you dont know wtf you are talking about while thinking you are the smartest person in the room.
Another completely valid interpretation is that you are just another pathetic, low effort transparent troll.

(10) Fact; "energy exists"
(11) Fact; "every experiment ever constructed shows that everything is made of energy"
(12) (10,11) C; "monism exists"
(13) Fact; "every cause involves energy"
(14) (11,12,13) C; "energy is self-causal"
(15) Synonyms; "self-causal", "self-deterministic", and "teleological"
(16) (14,15,16) C; "energy is self-deterministic"

(10) Fact; You cant back up your claims
(11) Fact; You dont know wtf you are talking about
(12) (10,11) C; You are full of shit

Was your computer created?

Will you stop to make logical fallacies, over and over?

did they carbon date the blood?

No need of more evidence for your ignorance. We already have ample. Thanks!

"God is love"

More word salad

I don't have a proof for that yet, save the fact that atheists don't love everyone.

Even more BS. This time mind-reading flavoured.

the only radiometric dating I know how to do is carbon dating...

I don't understand how to do the other dating methods... do you???

Thats bascially an admission to being a troll. Be careful, you might get banned if you keep being so lazy and incompetent. Where are all those trolls who know wtf they are doing? You are even too fucking stupid to troll properly. How sad is that!?

'matter is equivalent to energy'

"[color=rgba(0, 0, 0, 0.8)]Matter is defined as [/color]"

britanica
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matter is 'made of' light because it is a Kerr-induced self-focusing refraction curvature

in other words light is flowing into matter and resonating and sustaining the shape


"list Langans credential"

highest recorded IQ in the world and several inspire papers... feel free to read his work


'energy doesn't exist'

why do you believe that?



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[SubtleVirtue]

Sucks.  I thought I was going to get to have a discussion with a pantheist and all we get is another magic book worshipper who doesn't know what word do.

I am technically a pantheist... but unfortunately I can prove the global flood, sodom and gomorrah, confusion of the languages after the flood, etc

so that is circumstantial evidence that Jehovah exists


anyway I revere Jehovah and universal consciousness... but I give all my worship to beauty and morality

[SubtleVirtue]

I realized that I loved everyone from learning about Christ.

intending well-being for all is a fundamental need for mankind

"Intending well-being for all" certainly isn't the exclusive territory of Christianity - it's the core idea in Buddhist metta (lovingkindness) meditations. No gods are required.

Whether or not it's a "fundamental need for mankind" is debatable. It sounds to me as if you're trying to police the emotions of others, telling them what they should or should not feel. That is not cool, not at all; what I feel, for instance, is not for you to decide.

Buddah believed in God... God told him (according to his text) to teach the dharma.

should we force people to 'intend well-being for all'?

that would be difficult to do without synthetic telepathy

but if you could do it so conviently... what is the sin?

[SubtleVirtue]

the connective tissue found in the fossils are rather meaty and have lots of carbons

Citation? I'm not seeing anything that's large enough for a positive identification as to the type of tissue, or even that the cells are actually cells using very powerful microscopes. They've tried to extract DNA but have had zero success, even when trying to find fragments.

search "connective tissue T-Rex"

[SubtleVirtue]

how does dating the nearest rock date the fossil?

By basic reason. Raisin bread can't be older than the raisins withn it and can't be younger than the slices that cur it. The same reasoning works for rocks. Fossils that are between two layers of volcanic material must be younger than the lower layer and older than the upper layer. Date the two layers of volcanic material and you have the age of the fossil bracketed. If the two layers are reasonably close together and your deposition rates aren't aburdly slow, the two ages will be the same, within error.

how do you date a volcanic erruption?

[SubtleVirtue]

how do you know it was that old; can you give a solid deduction axiom for axiom to deduce your claim?

Yes, but the TLDR is that we know the rate at which radioactive isotopes decay and what they decay into. That rate is constant. Measure the rate and measure the amount of decay within a sample, do some pretty rudimentary math, and you get the decay time. There are a few assumptions that you'll need to check for a robust result, but they probably aren't what you think.

How do you know the decay rate for anything besides carbon 14... we know that the carbon 14 is from the radiation hiting the atmosphere but where does the radio isotopes come from from the other processes?