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Question about meaning and perception of reality from a theist.
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#171
RE: Question about meaning and perception of reality from a theist.
January 9, 2012 at 12:06 pm
So I believe I exist, therefore reality must exist.

Still sound like terrible logic?
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#172
RE: Question about meaning and perception of reality from a theist.
January 9, 2012 at 12:10 pm
(January 9, 2012 at 12:06 pm)amkerman Wrote: So I believe I exist, therefore reality must exist.

Still sound like terrible logic?

Redefining words does not support god's existence. It doesn't work that way.

Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence - Carl Sagan

Mankind's intelligence walks hand in hand with it's stupidity.

Being an atheist says nothing about your overall intelligence, it just means you don't believe in god. Atheists can be as bright as any scientist and as stupid as any creationist.

You never really know just how stupid someone is, until you've argued with them.
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RE: Question about meaning and perception of reality from a theist.
January 9, 2012 at 12:22 pm (This post was last modified: January 9, 2012 at 12:22 pm by Blam!.)
What you failed to provide the solid evidence prove the existence of your god.

Example:
I exist, therefore Odin exist.
I exist, therefore Clown exist.
I exist, therefore Allah exist.
I exist, therefore Santa Claus exist.
I exist, therefore Unicorn exist.
I exist, therefore Elves exist.

See the problem? Your arguments are highly logical, Amkerman.
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RE: Question about meaning and perception of reality from a theist.
January 9, 2012 at 12:27 pm (This post was last modified: January 9, 2012 at 12:31 pm by houseofcantor.)
(January 9, 2012 at 12:06 pm)amkerman Wrote: So I believe I exist, therefore reality must exist.

Still sound like terrible logic?

More like the faith in god must shine outward from you rather than depend on reality to illustrate god.

And then you're gonna hafta deal with peeps like Ace, here. Wink
(January 9, 2012 at 12:22 pm)Blam! Wrote: What you failed to provide the solid evidence prove the existence of your god.

Example:
I exist, therefore Odin exist.
I exist, therefore Clown exist.
I exist, therefore Allah exist.
I exist, therefore Santa Claus exist.
I exist, therefore Unicorn exist.
I exist, therefore Elves exist.

See the problem? Your arguments are highly logical, Amkerman.
The sum totality of one's being limits these improbable variables. The atheist is one who may be defined with "lack of belief," but the more positive belief is in that of science to define reality without the need of extraneous variable.
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RE: Question about meaning and perception of reality from a theist.
January 9, 2012 at 12:42 pm
"redefining words does not support realities existence, it doesn't work that way"

Let's see if you're right.

Well, if we are really redefining words, then both words and "we" must exist.

If we exist, we must exist within reality.

If we exist in reality, reality must be real.

Seems you're argument is not valid.
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RE: Question about meaning and perception of reality from a theist.
January 9, 2012 at 12:52 pm (This post was last modified: January 9, 2012 at 12:53 pm by Ace Otana.)
(January 9, 2012 at 12:42 pm)amkerman Wrote: "redefining words does not support realities existence, it doesn't work that way"

Let's see if you're right.

Well, if we are really redefining words, then both words and "we" must exist.

If we exist, we must exist within reality.

If we exist in reality, reality must be real.

Seems you're argument is not valid.

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Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence - Carl Sagan

Mankind's intelligence walks hand in hand with it's stupidity.

Being an atheist says nothing about your overall intelligence, it just means you don't believe in god. Atheists can be as bright as any scientist and as stupid as any creationist.

You never really know just how stupid someone is, until you've argued with them.
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RE: Question about meaning and perception of reality from a theist.
January 9, 2012 at 1:03 pm
Instead of posting an amusing facepalm, which I do appreciate, how about you attack the argument.
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#178
RE: Question about meaning and perception of reality from a theist.
January 9, 2012 at 1:06 pm
Facepalm
Your claims of the definition of "reality" is false. Go and buy a definition book, Amkerman.
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RE: Question about meaning and perception of reality from a theist.
January 9, 2012 at 1:06 pm
(January 9, 2012 at 1:03 pm)amkerman Wrote: Instead of posting an amusing facepalm, which I do appreciate, how about you attack the argument.

It's that stupid, that incredibly stupid that I don't know what to say, and so I really am going to ignore you from now on. The level of stupidity is astonishing.
I have to say it.
You're just too dumb to argue with.

*Walks out*
Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence - Carl Sagan

Mankind's intelligence walks hand in hand with it's stupidity.

Being an atheist says nothing about your overall intelligence, it just means you don't believe in god. Atheists can be as bright as any scientist and as stupid as any creationist.

You never really know just how stupid someone is, until you've argued with them.
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RE: Question about meaning and perception of reality from a theist.
January 9, 2012 at 1:38 pm (This post was last modified: January 9, 2012 at 1:46 pm by amkerman.)
Reality: something that is neither derivative nor dependent but exists necessarily.

Merriam webster.
Do you believe reality exists?
If so, can you comprehend it?
If so, can you prove it's existence?

If not, doesn't it still nonetheless exist?
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