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America deserves Santorum
#11
RE: America deserves Santorum
Be still my liberal bleeding heart...do we have a convert on our hands?
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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#12
RE: America deserves Santorum
(February 28, 2012 at 4:35 pm)Minimalist Wrote:
Quote:I think the best way Obama could support university education is by making it free.


Why you SOCIALIST!

What about the invisible hand of the market?


Big Grin

It has nothing to do with socialism. It's simply the most logical thing to do for a nation.
But America is in no need, as I see that it's sucking the gifted from the rest of the world to it's own soil like a vortex. Why use the money to fund your own education, while you can just tap the brainpower of other nations who support their youth with their taxes, making them nearly free for mr. and mrs. American taxpayer!
And there the invisible hand of the market comes into play.
That hand just leaves other, less developed countries without the educated academians, scientists, engineers and etc. they need for them to develop.

We, on the other hand, make education free for our children, so the money we invest in them goes to America. Yes. But do we complain?
No. We just want the best for our children.

Quote:Be still my liberal bleeding heart...do we have a convert on our hands?
If you're referring to me, no. My ideology has always supported free education, healthcare and social welfare.
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#13
RE: America deserves Santorum
It doesn't have to have anything to do with socialism for the right-wing assholes over here to shriek that it does.

Relax, this is what is in our future if the republicunts win.






Your educated children will flee for their homeland in droves.
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#14
RE: America deserves Santorum
(February 28, 2012 at 4:43 pm)kılıç_mehmet Wrote: We just want the best for our children.

Which, it seems, is moving to the US (at least for now).......eh?

Quote:If you're referring to me, no. My ideology has always supported free education, healthcare and social welfare.

See, I knew I liked you for a reason.


-Hell Min, I might go to Turkey with them.

I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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#15
RE: America deserves Santorum
Quote:Which, it seems, is moving to the US (at least for now).......eh?
No. How would you expect me to live with myself, if I'd leave my people with less a chemical engineer to work in their plants, and go work abroads simply to earn a few more zloty?
Quote:See, I knew I liked you for a reason.
Well, that makes me feel very warm inside, but seriously, free public education is a reality in many poorer countries, and I simply fail to comprehend why it does not exist in America.

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#16
RE: America deserves Santorum
You could always send a portion of your pay home (which is common, and actually a very good idea). I'm with you on that count, I have absolutely no idea why we're so backwards in that regard. That's not entirely true, I have an idea as to why we're so backwards, I just can't accept it.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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#17
RE: America deserves Santorum
(February 28, 2012 at 5:01 pm)Rhythm Wrote: You could always send a portion of your pay home (which is common, and actually a very good idea). I'm with you on that count, I have absolutely no idea why we're so backwards in that regard. That's not entirely true, I have an idea as to why we're so backwards, I just can't accept it.

Well, sending money home is not the thing, though. If I go to work abroads, I'm actually contributing to the brain drain that befalls my country. This is the real harm done here.
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#18
RE: America deserves Santorum
It's a rough position to be in. Just another instance where the lines we draw on maps create problems where there need be none.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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#19
RE: America deserves Santorum
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Even if the open windows of science at first make us shiver after the cozy indoor warmth of traditional humanizing myths, in the end the fresh air brings vigor, and the great spaces have a splendor of their own - Bertrand Russell
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#20
RE: America deserves Santorum
(February 28, 2012 at 4:58 pm)kılıç_mehmet Wrote: Well, that makes me feel very warm inside, but seriously, free public education is a reality in many poorer countries, and I simply fail to comprehend why it does not exist in America.

To be fair, free public education does exist in America. It's just that the quality of public education in America is poorer than in many poorer countries, and does not really cover post-secondary education. Which explains why we are getting poorer, while the poorer countries are getting richer.

Also, many religious folks refuse to allow their children to attend our poor public education system, not because our poor education system is too poor for their children, but because despite its poor quality, our shabby public education system still occassionally allow a piece of real knowledge to trickle onto the unfortunate students, and that can't be tolerated by the religious. So they developed a jar completely impervious to any knowledge, called home school.



(February 28, 2012 at 5:31 pm)kılıç_mehmet Wrote:
(February 28, 2012 at 5:01 pm)Rhythm Wrote: You could always send a portion of your pay home (which is common, and actually a very good idea). I'm with you on that count, I have absolutely no idea why we're so backwards in that regard. That's not entirely true, I have an idea as to why we're so backwards, I just can't accept it.

Well, sending money home is not the thing, though. If I go to work abroads, I'm actually contributing to the brain drain that befalls my country. This is the real harm done here.


Brain drain has subtle and unanticipated benefits for the countries appearently loosing the brains. For example, brain drain to the US and UK built the foundation of economic growth of China and India.


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