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[Eilonnwy]

What I have said is nothing in comparison to what Hitler has said, you are so incredibly off base it's ridiculous. Maturity or immaturity does not make people clones. Suggesting someone is at the same level as someone else, does not make them clones. It's a false analogy through and through.

Maturity has to deal with how people act and respond to situations, it does not mean people act the same way in every single instance.

Deciding to have a designated driver when you're out drinking with friends is a mature decision. By your insistence that people at the same maturity level are clones, every person who makes this decision is a clone. It's absurd to the highest degree.

There is absolutely nothing in my argument that age lines are reasonable that is comparable to Hitler's genocide. Hitler believed certain races and defects to be so inferior as to murder them. Where do I equivocate immaturity worth murdering people? Please tell me, I'd like to know.

Your argument has failed, and yet, as Meatball says, you insist on beating this deadhorse and resorting to outrageous accusations that my argument is comparable to the millions of murders carried out in Hitler's regime. It's ridiculous, I shouldn't even have to defend myself from such outrageous accusations.

[Violet]

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Slavery |ˈslāvərē|
noun
the state of being a slave : thousands had been sold into slavery.
• the practice or system of owning slaves.
• a condition compared to that of a slave in respect of exhausting labor or restricted freedom : female domestic slavery.
• excessive dependence on or devotion to something : slavery to tradition.

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slave |slāv|
noun chiefly historical
a person who is the legal property of another and is forced to obey them.
• a person who works very hard without proper remuneration or appreciation : by the time I was ten, I had become her slave, doing all the housework.
• a person who is excessively dependent upon or controlled by something : the poorest people of the world are slaves to the banks | she was no slave to fashion.
• a device, or part of one, directly controlled by another : [as adj. ] a slave cassette deck. Compare with master 1 .
• an ant captured in its pupal state by an ant of another species, for which it becomes a worker.

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A person who is legal property of another and is forced to obey them. That is what slavery means... and 'minors' are legal property of their guardians. I do not slap in the face anyone: a slaveholder

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slaveholder |ˈslāvˌhōldər|
noun
an owner of slaves.

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can be a fair and great person... or they could be the most malevolent being in the universe... or anything in between. You are now committing the same fallacy that Rhizo tried to press upon me above. You also speak of slavery as though it no longer happens... while it still occurs today.

You are the one in need of a reality check, as you imagine slavery to automatically be terrible... It often is... but this is not true universally. Far from it... in the example of the slavery that still occurs in the USA (People owning children): This can in uncommon cases be a good thing. More often than not: slavery is almost benign. Far more rarely: slavery is a good thing.

You see... humans are not just some substance to be owned... anything that can choose for itself has the right of not being owned... to do so is an infringement upon the right to choose. That is all slavery is... and it is horrible for that reason.

[Meatball]

I don't even care about debating how to determine maturity anymore, between comparing age restrictians to Nazism, endorsing slavery, using psuedo-intellectual quotes from yourself in your signature, and failing to understand math, you've given me more than enough evidence to conclude that you're not mature enough to be considered an independant adult. I personally wouldn't let you out in public without an escort.

[Eilonnwy]

Yeah, I think at this point, we've repeatedly explained ourselves and we're all just beating the dead horse. This is not worth continuing and it's time we close this topic down.