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RE: muhammeds purpose
January 20, 2013 at 9:32 pm
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what i meant was i assume the prophets role was to spread the message of god, yet this message has been fragmented.
Theres obviously the sunnis and shia who fight and kill each other, the muslims who dont believe the hadith are reliable who have had death threats placed upon them the american group i think they are called the nation of islam who just have totally ridiculous beliefs. Now these fanatic muslims have been listed over and over again on this forum and obviously al fatihaha and thatmuslimguy always say no these people arent following islam right neither are they or them or those people, but i would question how good of a job did muhammed do if thousands upon thousands of muslims are doing these horrendous acts upon humanity.
Now al fattyhaha also mentioned muhammed creating a nation i would question how concrete and united that nation is if theres so many disagreements among muslims i would also suggest a few things god could have done better in order to make the correct religion (in the opinion of islam) more widespread.
Tell the muslims about america and australia and south america in order for them to go and preach to these people first rather than the christians who went to these countries who preached the wrong scripture.
Tell jesus to definitely say that he definitely isnt the son of god, just so theres no confusion and the wrong religion doesnt accidently become really powerful.
send a prophet down every 200 years or so just so that evidence isnt confined to copies of copies of copies of copies of books and so on.
Just an additional note, just an example of how fragmented and aggressive muslims are, i was on an islamic website and one of the threads was something like "sucessful famous muslims" and of the top 3 which i looked into i think one of them was part of a muslim group which was considered unbelievers, the other had a death threat on his head from a muslim authority and i think the third had been killed by muslim fanatics, these were just the first three i looked at it could have been coincidental i suppose but it just got me thinking about it.
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RE: muhammeds purpose
January 20, 2013 at 9:37 pm
(January 20, 2013 at 9:10 pm)ThatMuslimGuy Wrote: He doesn't know what Dawah is? Errmm Awkward....
Neither do I. Of course, I also don't give a flying fuck.
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RE: muhammeds purpose
January 20, 2013 at 9:43 pm
(January 20, 2013 at 9:32 pm)paulpablo Wrote: what i meant was i assume the prophets role was to spread the message of god, yet this message has been fragmented.
Theres obviously the sunnis and shia who fight and kill each other, the muslims who dont believe the hadith are reliable who have had death threats placed upon them the american group i think they are called the nation of islam who just have totally ridiculous beliefs. Now these fanatic muslims have been listed over and over again on this forum and obviously al fatihaha and thatmuslimguy always say no these people arent following islam right neither are they or them or those people, but i would question how good of a job did muhammed do if thousands upon thousands of muslims are doing these horrendous acts upon humanity.
Now al fattyhaha also mentioned muhammed creating a nation i would question how concrete and united that nation is if theres so many disagreements among muslims i would also suggest a few things god could have done better in order to make the correct religion (in the opinion of islam) more widespread.
Tell the muslims about america and australia and south america in order for them to go and preach to these people first rather than the christians who went to these countries who preached the wrong scripture.
Tell jesus to definitely say that he definitely isnt the son of god, just so theres no confusion and the wrong religion doesnt accidently become really powerful.
send a prophet down every 200 years or so just so that evidence isnt confined to copies of copies of copies of copies of books and so on.
Just an additional note, just an example of how fragmented and aggressive muslims are, i was on an islamic website and one of the threads was something like "sucessful famous muslims" and of the top 3 which i looked into i think one of them was part of a muslim group which was considered unbelievers, the other had a death threat on his head from a muslim authority and i think the third had been killed by muslim fanatics, these were just the first three i looked at it could have been coincidental i suppose but it just got me thinking about it.
Mohammad actually did a very good job. Delivered the quran, and that's it .
Look it's not rocket science. the quran is the word of god, and we are not christians, we don't believe that the word of man can compare to the word of god.
the main problem today is that muslims do not follow the quran, they turn to the hadith instead, and for the 1000400530th time I'm saying it : following the hadith blindly without the quran, is a death sentence ; the situation you see .
and it's rational, because the quran stated in more than one position that apocalypse is upon humanity, muslims of today should ask themselves why.
Getting closer to judgement day = muslims become more fake. All humanity, actually.
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RE: muhammeds purpose
January 20, 2013 at 9:45 pm
Quote:Mohammad actually did a very good job. Delivered the quran, and that's it .
Yeah and Prometheus delivered fire to man.
I have to say that fire is a damn sight more useful.
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RE: muhammeds purpose
January 20, 2013 at 9:49 pm
(January 20, 2013 at 9:45 pm)Minimalist Wrote: Quote:Mohammad actually did a very good job. Delivered the quran, and that's it .
Yeah and Prometheus delivered fire to man.
I have to say that fire is a damn sight more useful.
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RE: muhammeds purpose
January 20, 2013 at 9:59 pm
(This post was last modified: January 20, 2013 at 10:04 pm by Al-Fatihah.)
(January 20, 2013 at 9:32 pm)paulpablo Wrote: what i meant was i assume the prophets role was to spread the message of god, yet this message has been fragmented.
Theres obviously the sunnis and shia who fight and kill each other, the muslims who dont believe the hadith are reliable who have had death threats placed upon them the american group i think they are called the nation of islam who just have totally ridiculous beliefs. Now these fanatic muslims have been listed over and over again on this forum and obviously al fatihaha and thatmuslimguy always say no these people arent following islam right neither are they or them or those people, but i would question how good of a job did muhammed do if thousands upon thousands of muslims are doing these horrendous acts upon humanity.
Now al fattyhaha also mentioned muhammed creating a nation i would question how concrete and united that nation is if theres so many disagreements among muslims i would also suggest a few things god could have done better in order to make the correct religion (in the opinion of islam) more widespread.
Tell the muslims about america and australia and south america in order for them to go and preach to these people first rather than the christians who went to these countries who preached the wrong scripture.
Tell jesus to definitely say that he definitely isnt the son of god, just so theres no confusion and the wrong religion doesnt accidently become really powerful.
send a prophet down every 200 years or so just so that evidence isnt confined to copies of copies of copies of copies of books and so on.
Just an additional note, just an example of how fragmented and aggressive muslims are, i was on an islamic website and one of the threads was something like "sucessful famous muslims" and of the top 3 which i looked into i think one of them was part of a muslim group which was considered unbelievers, the other had a death threat on his head from a muslim authority and i think the third had been killed by muslim fanatics, these were just the first three i looked at it could have been coincidental i suppose but it just got me thinking about it.
Response: Muhammad himself said the religion would be divided into sects. That shows that Allah only intends for the message to be delivered. What a person does with the message, they will be held accountable for in the hereafter. Thus Muhammad's purpose was perfect, since his purpose was to only deliver the message.
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RE: muhammeds purpose
January 20, 2013 at 9:59 pm
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Quote:the main problem today is that muslims do not follow the quran, they turn to the hadith instead, and for the 1000400530th time I'm saying it : following the hadith blindly without the quran, is a death sentence ; the situation you see .
its usually a death sentence for the person whos under the authority of the person following the hadith though, for example apostates, witches, adulterers and so on.
so muslims are in agreement that the best way to communicate a universal message to people is to give it to one man to recite to people then just let people spread the message however they wish?
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RE: muhammeds purpose
January 21, 2013 at 4:52 am
(January 20, 2013 at 9:59 pm)paulpablo Wrote: so muslims are in agreement that the best way to communicate a universal message to people is to give it to one man to recite to people then just let people spread the message however they wish?
Response: Not at all. The message is to remain the same.
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RE: muhammeds purpose
January 21, 2013 at 5:47 am
(January 20, 2013 at 9:43 pm)AtlasS Wrote: (January 20, 2013 at 9:32 pm)paulpablo Wrote: what i meant was i assume the prophets role was to spread the message of god, yet this message has been fragmented.
Theres obviously the sunnis and shia who fight and kill each other, the muslims who dont believe the hadith are reliable who have had death threats placed upon them the american group i think they are called the nation of islam who just have totally ridiculous beliefs. Now these fanatic muslims have been listed over and over again on this forum and obviously al fatihaha and thatmuslimguy always say no these people arent following islam right neither are they or them or those people, but i would question how good of a job did muhammed do if thousands upon thousands of muslims are doing these horrendous acts upon humanity.
Now al fattyhaha also mentioned muhammed creating a nation i would question how concrete and united that nation is if theres so many disagreements among muslims i would also suggest a few things god could have done better in order to make the correct religion (in the opinion of islam) more widespread.
Tell the muslims about america and australia and south america in order for them to go and preach to these people first rather than the christians who went to these countries who preached the wrong scripture.
Tell jesus to definitely say that he definitely isnt the son of god, just so theres no confusion and the wrong religion doesnt accidently become really powerful.
send a prophet down every 200 years or so just so that evidence isnt confined to copies of copies of copies of copies of books and so on.
Just an additional note, just an example of how fragmented and aggressive muslims are, i was on an islamic website and one of the threads was something like "sucessful famous muslims" and of the top 3 which i looked into i think one of them was part of a muslim group which was considered unbelievers, the other had a death threat on his head from a muslim authority and i think the third had been killed by muslim fanatics, these were just the first three i looked at it could have been coincidental i suppose but it just got me thinking about it.
Mohammad actually did a very good job. Delivered the quran, and that's it .
Look it's not rocket science. the quran is the word of god, and we are not christians, we don't believe that the word of man can compare to the word of god.
the main problem today is that muslims do not follow the quran, they turn to the hadith instead, and for the 1000400530th time I'm saying it : following the hadith blindly without the quran, is a death sentence ; the situation you see .
and it's rational, because the quran stated in more than one position that apocalypse is upon humanity, muslims of today should ask themselves why.
Getting closer to judgement day = muslims become more fake. All humanity, actually.
I'm interested. How do you prayer?
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RE: muhammeds purpose
January 21, 2013 at 9:22 am
It's Da'wa .... Not Dawah
دعوة !!
got it ?? Robowoman ??
You're a Drop in The Rain ... Just a Number not a Name
and You won't see It ... You don't believe It
at The End of The Day ... You're a Needle in The Hay
You signed and sealed It ... and Now You gotta deal with It
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