muhammeds purpose

[paulpablo]

Any way this isnt me asking myself my own opinions i was asking you your opinions, so do you think the quran should have been translated if the translations are sometimes wrong?

[Al-Fatihah]

Any way this isnt me asking myself my own opinions i was asking you your opinions, so do you think the quran should have been translated if the translations are sometimes wrong?

Response: The faulty translations do not discredit accurate translations. So if an accurate translation is beneficial, then there is no wrong in doing so.

[Minimalist]

Before you read a book, you need to have a background on the author. You obviously have no background at all, which affect your judgment.

If only we knew who the authors of any of this shit were we could do so.

[paulpablo]

But those [wives] from whom you fear arrogance - [first] advise them; [then if they persist], forsake them in bed; and [finally], strike them. But if they obey you [once more], seek no means against them. Indeed, Allah is ever Exalted and Grand.

Now let man but think From what he is created! He is created from A drop emitted – Proceeding from between The back bone and the ribs.

He who created the heavens and the earth and what is between them in six days and then established Himself above the Throne - the Most Merciful, so ask about Him one well informed.

Verily your Lord is Allah, who created the heavens and the earth in six days, and is firmly established on the throne (of authority), regulating and governing all things. No intercessor (can plead with Him) except after His leave (hath been obtained). This is Allah your Lord; Him therefore serve ye: will ye not receive admonition?

And He (is The One) Who created the heavens and the earth in six days-and His Throne was upon the water-that He might try you, whichever of you is fairer in deeds.

Are any of these translated badly? because ive heard some muslims say that they are, and some muslims say they arent.

Obviously im just asking your opinion fattyhaha

[Al-Fatihah]

But those [wives] from whom you fear arrogance - [first] advise them; [then if they persist], forsake them in bed; and [finally], strike them. But if they obey you [once more], seek no means against them. Indeed, Allah is ever Exalted and Grand.

Now let man but think From what he is created! He is created from A drop emitted – Proceeding from between The back bone and the ribs.

He who created the heavens and the earth and what is between them in six days and then established Himself above the Throne - the Most Merciful, so ask about Him one well informed.

Verily your Lord is Allah, who created the heavens and the earth in six days, and is firmly established on the throne (of authority), regulating and governing all things. No intercessor (can plead with Him) except after His leave (hath been obtained). This is Allah your Lord; Him therefore serve ye: will ye not receive admonition?

And He (is The One) Who created the heavens and the earth in six days-and His Throne was upon the water-that He might try you, whichever of you is fairer in deeds.

Are any of these translated badly? because ive heard some muslims say that they are, and some muslims say they arent.

Obviously im just asking your opinion fattyhaha

Response: No one asked what you asked for, Paulblows. You've been caught out giving inaccurate meaning to translations already, and that's not an opinion. So it's a waste of time expressing any opinion on one who claims to already know.

[paulpablo]

so do you feel uncomfortable answering this question? thats fine if you do.

see previous post to find out what i think of your claims i gave an innacurate translation.

Also i dont claim to know your opinion, thats why im asking for it.

[Al-Fatihah]

so do you feel uncomfortable answering this question? thats fine if you do.

see previous post to find out what i think of your claims i gave an innacurate translation.

Also i dont claim to know your opinion, thats why im asking for it.

Response: There's no need for me to feel uncomfortable when you were the one caught out. And you also gave meaning to the Qur'an which was demonstrated repeatedly to you as inaccurate, yet you still claimed it's true. So your want for an opinion is pointless, since you claim to be right on things you want an opinion on already. So the better question is how long will you drag out your pleading before you actually state your agenda?

[paulpablo]

Response: Once again, an example does in fact have to be related to a command, in order for it to be an example of Muhammad. For muslims are only obligated to do what is commanded. So modeling Muhammad would be to mimic what Muhammad commanded. Muhammad never commanded anyone to marry a 9 yesr old, so it is not an example of Muhammad.

This was what you said in your message to me, you say that an example does have to be related to a command.

I said according to the dictionary you are wrong, NOT ME, the dictionary, according to the dictionary an example is an ideal, a concept worthy of copying.
An examplar is somone worthy of copying or somone who it would be good to mimic.
Now i didnt make any claim here, im giving you the text book definition of what the word "example" is, regardless of the point which the quran is making.

Muhammad never commanded anyone to marry a 9 yesr old, so it is not an example of Muhammad

This is incorrect, i dont just mean because you spelt the word years wrong, i mean an example of somone could mean anything that they do or say or anything that is an example of their behaviour or code of conduct. Its like you saying "if somone wants to follow the example of bill gates they should not earn lots of money because bill gates didnt command anyone to earn lots of money"

This argument isnt even about the quran really, its about your special definition of the word example that doesnt agree with the dictionary

So the better question is how long will you drag out your pleading before you actually state your agenda?

Im not pleading, either tell me if you think the quran verses i posted are correct translations or dont, its really no skin off my bollocks either way

[Minimalist]

To be honest, the issue of whether or not the translations are "correct" is irrelevant to the issue of it being man-made horseshit to begin with.

Just like every other "sacred" text.

[Al-Fatihah]

Response: Once again, an example does in fact have to be related to a command, in order for it to be an example of Muhammad. For muslims are only obligated to do what is commanded. So modeling Muhammad would be to mimic what Muhammad commanded. Muhammad never commanded anyone to marry a 9 yesr old, so it is not an example of Muhammad.

This was what you said in your message to me, you say that an example does have to be related to a command.

I said according to the dictionary you are wrong, NOT ME, the dictionary, according to the dictionary an example is an ideal, a concept worthy of copying.
An examplar is somone worthy of copying or somone who it would be good to mimic.
Now i didnt make any claim here, im giving you the text book definition of what the word "example" is, regardless of the point which the quran is making.

Muhammad never commanded anyone to marry a 9 yesr old, so it is not an example of Muhammad

This is incorrect, i dont just mean because you spelt the word years wrong, i mean an example of somone could mean anything that they do or say or anything that is an example of their behaviour or code of conduct. Its like you saying "if somone wants to follow the example of bill gates they should not earn lots of money because bill gates didnt command anyone to earn lots of money"

This argument isnt even about the quran really, its about your special definition of the word example that doesnt agree with the dictionary

So the better question is how long will you drag out your pleading before you actually state your agenda?

Im not pleading, either tell me if you think the quran verses i posted are correct translations or dont, its really no skin off my bollocks either way

Response: And I debunked your bogus claim by showing that the verse in question is written with context. The context to follow the command of Allah is in verse 4:59. Therefore, if the verses say to follow one's command and the other says Muhammad is the examle, then your claim that it only refers to follow the example and not the command is wrong. The message of the Qur'an is not summed up in one verse. No one disputed the definition of the word example, nor does it refute what I stated. In fact , stating the verse says to follow what Muhammad"s example to follow a command is according to the dictionary and the definition of example, since it includes the definition of example.

Your logic is as follows:

The man is running a marathon.

The definition of running here means to sprint.

The man is running for president

Here we see the same word running is used. Does running in the second sentence mean to sprint as well. No. Why? Because of CONTEXT.

The example clearly shows that words refer can refer to different things depending on its context. Similarly, verse 4:59 says to obey Allah. Therefore, to follow the example of Muhammad means to follow his example of how to obey Allah's command.

So your argument utterly fails.