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Re: RE: Ask Me Anything - Answers from a true Christian's Perspective!
February 1, 2013 at 12:37 pm
(February 1, 2013 at 12:00 pm)Shell B Wrote: It's not about possessiveness. It's jealousy. They are quite different, despite popular opinion. Also, it is the emotional part that is the problem, not the sexual closeness. I think being intimate with other people cheapens it for me. I'll never see the point. I don't want to have sex with people I don't care about, and if I care about someone else and have sex with that person, why the hell am I in a relationship? Quoted because it's beautiful
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RE: Ask Me Anything - Answers from a true Christian's Perspective!
February 1, 2013 at 1:55 pm
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(February 1, 2013 at 12:00 pm)Shell B Wrote: It's not about possessiveness. It's jealousy. They are quite different, despite popular opinion.
By one definition they are different yes, but by the other... jealousy is to be 'fiercely protective or vigilant of one's rights or possessions'. I was using this one, not its relation to whether or not someone is covetous Which you're right... they are not identical, but they are very similar under this usage, and if one is experiencing jealousy: there's a good chance they are being possessive. Not necessarily the other way around, of course
Regardless, I don't get either possessiveness or jealousy (under any form), so I really don't understand, even if I understand why people get that way. What causes a person to consider a person their property
Quote:Also, it is the emotional part that is the problem, not the sexual closeness. I think being intimate with other people cheapens it for me. I'll never see the point.
If having emotional closeness to people cheapens the experience, why do you have friends? Is there no point in sharing burdens, sensitivity to emotions, discovering more about people you care about?
While I don't understand jealousy, I don't envision or declare that I'll never be able to understand it
Quote:I don't want to have sex with people I don't care about, and if I care about someone else and have sex with that person, why the hell am I in a relationship?
Why would you have sex with people you don't care about?
If you care about someone else and have sex with them, why does that throw a relationship into question?
(February 1, 2013 at 12:37 pm)fr0d0 Wrote: Quoted because it's beautiful
Beautifully over my head
(February 1, 2013 at 12:19 pm)Darwinian Wrote: No, I asked can he be surprise? Does he have the ability to experience surprise?
If he is never surprised as a result of omniscience... no, he does not
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RE: Ask Me Anything - Answers from a true Christian's Perspective!
February 1, 2013 at 3:05 pm
I'm afraid we just have to disagree on this one. I don't see my significant others as property. I see a relationship and physical intimacy as something that is between the two of us. It is something we share, so there is safety and security in that promise of monogamy. And, by saying intimate, I'm not talking about friendship intimate.
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RE: Ask Me Anything - Answers from a true Christian's Perspective!
February 1, 2013 at 3:13 pm
Quote:Oh no, my Lord God is never suprised because He is omniscient and omnipotent.
1 Sam 15:11
Quote:It repenteth me that I have set up Saul to be king: for he is turned back from following me, and hath not performed my commandments.
How come your inept fuckface of a god didn't know that "Saul" would fuck up BEFORE he made him king? "Gods" should not "repent." Seems very ungodly.
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RE: Ask Me Anything - Answers from a true Christian's Perspective!
February 1, 2013 at 6:50 pm
(February 1, 2013 at 3:05 pm)Shell B Wrote: I'm afraid we just have to disagree on this one. I don't see my significant others as property.
In which case, you really *can't* get possessive of them.
Quote:I see a relationship and physical intimacy as something that is between the two of us. It is something we share, so there is safety and security in that promise of monogamy. And, by saying intimate, I'm not talking about friendship intimate.
We've found the reasons... and they have a lot less to do with jealousy than caution and insecurity.
I have many different friendships, some are closer than others... some are close enough that you might consider them lovers, but they remain simply friends in my eyes. 'Friendship intimate' has such a wide range to me as to be largely meaningless
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RE: Ask Me Anything - Answers from a true Christian's Perspective!
February 1, 2013 at 11:13 pm
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But, I'm not possessive. I'm jealous. We already established that.
Perhaps by your standards, but I don't have a range between friend intimate and lover intimate. I have intimate friends and I have lovers. The lines are never blurred for me. I either have a sexual and romantic relationship with you, a sexual friendship with you when I am single, a friendship with you or no relationship at all. It's quite simple. No complications. No confusion over other people's choices for relationships.
What's wrong with being insecure?
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RE: Ask Me Anything - Answers from a true Christian's Perspective!
February 3, 2013 at 4:04 am
(February 1, 2013 at 12:24 am)Brunitski Wrote: Christian, Why do Humans need gods?
We need our Creator.
(February 1, 2013 at 3:45 am)fr0d0 Wrote: Shell is so Muslim
Christian: what is your testimony?
Joke.
(February 1, 2013 at 12:19 pm)Darwinian Wrote: (January 31, 2013 at 6:25 pm)Christian Wrote: Oh no, my Lord God is never suprised because He is omniscient and omnipotent.
No, I asked can he be surprise? Does he have the ability to experience surprise?
No, because knows Everything.
(February 1, 2013 at 3:13 pm)Minimalist Wrote: Quote:Oh no, my Lord God is never suprised because He is omniscient and omnipotent.
1 Sam 15:11
Quote:It repenteth me that I have set up Saul to be king: for he is turned back from following me, and hath not performed my commandments.
How come your inept fuckface of a god didn't know that "Saul" would fuck up BEFORE he made him king? "Gods" should not "repent." Seems very ungodly.
Lord works in mysterious ways.
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Re: RE: Ask Me Anything - Answers from a true Christian's Perspective!
February 3, 2013 at 4:44 am
(February 3, 2013 at 4:04 am)Christian Wrote: (February 1, 2013 at 3:45 am)fr0d0 Wrote: Christian: what is your testimony?
Joke. No. Serious question.
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RE: Ask Me Anything - Answers from a true Christian's Perspective!
February 5, 2013 at 2:01 am
(February 1, 2013 at 11:13 pm)Shell B Wrote: But, I'm not possessive. I'm jealous. We already established that.
How isn't jealousy possessive? 0.o As defined, it's part of the definition, and the only other relatable one I have in my dictionary is 'demanding faithfulness and exclusive worship.'
Which I dunno about the last word, or if it's a demand... but it's the only other one I've got. We haven't established anything, you just haven't told me the definition by which you're using 'jealous' yet
Quote:Perhaps by your standards, but I don't have a range between friend intimate and lover intimate. I have intimate friends and I have lovers. The lines are never blurred for me. I either have a sexual and romantic relationship with you, a sexual friendship with you when I am single, a friendship with you or no relationship at all. It's quite simple. No complications. No confusion over other people's choices for relationships.
What's wrong with being insecure?
Nothing's wrong with being insecure, I'm just saying: I don't believe your stance has squat to do with jealousy, and everything to do with who you are (or at least, who you express).
It doesn't seem complicated to me My confusion stems from other people not being like me, because they are silly
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RE: Ask Me Anything - Answers from a true Christian's Perspective!
February 5, 2013 at 3:04 am
(February 3, 2013 at 4:04 am)Christian Wrote: (February 1, 2013 at 12:19 pm)Darwinian Wrote: No, I asked can he be surprise? Does he have the ability to experience surprise?
No, because knows Everything.
(February 1, 2013 at 3:13 pm)Minimalist Wrote: 1 Sam 15:11
How come your inept fuckface of a god didn't know that "Saul" would fuck up BEFORE he made him king? "Gods" should not "repent." Seems very ungodly.
Lord works in mysterious ways.
Lamest rebuttal EVER.
If you're not supposed to ride faster than your guardian angel can fly then mine had better get a bloody SR-71.
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