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Pi is the answer
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RE: Pi is the answer
April 28, 2013 at 9:40 pm
No, not infinity. Something only smarty pants would know.
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April 28, 2013 at 10:26 pm
Fuck you guys and your pi.


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RE: Pi is the answer
April 28, 2013 at 11:07 pm
(April 28, 2013 at 9:40 pm)Shell B Wrote: No, not infinity. Something only smarty pants would know.

Tau, perhaps? Or phi, the 'Golden Ratio'?

Or seven?
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RE: Pi is the answer
April 28, 2013 at 11:16 pm
(April 28, 2013 at 9:27 pm)Venom7513 Wrote: This is technically not true because there are no perfect circles!

To see why, first note that Pi is irrational. That is, Pi can not be expressed as a ratio of integers. Now note that all lengths exist as a multiple of the smallest length, planck length (~1.61619926 × 10^-35 m). The circumference and diameter of a given circle are lengths and, therefore, exist as integral multiples of plank length. In other words the ratio of a given circles circumference to its diameter is a rational number!

The larger the circle, the closer the ratio gets to Pi, but in a universe with finite resources, no such object can ever exist.

Wow.. you've just mathematically and physically proven circles can't exist and are therefore only a concept. The only way I knew how to do that was by rigorously trying to point out how a circle in real life doesn't fit the description of the concept of a circle...
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RE: Pi is the answer
April 29, 2013 at 12:04 am
Tau! That's the one.
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April 30, 2013 at 10:04 am
Is he at least on speaking terms with Fibonacci?
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RE: Pi is the answer
April 30, 2013 at 10:18 am
(April 28, 2013 at 11:16 pm)FallentoReason Wrote: Wow.. you've just mathematically and physically proven circles can't exist and are therefore only a concept. The only way I knew how to do that was by rigorously trying to point out how a circle in real life doesn't fit the description of the concept of a circle...

Huh? What do you mean by "real life doesn't fit the description of the concept of a circle"?

Is there a philosophical proof that is eluding me here? XD
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RE: Pi is the answer
April 30, 2013 at 10:42 am
(April 30, 2013 at 10:18 am)Venom7513 Wrote:
(April 28, 2013 at 11:16 pm)FallentoReason Wrote: Wow.. you've just mathematically and physically proven circles can't exist and are therefore only a concept. The only way I knew how to do that was by rigorously trying to point out how a circle in real life doesn't fit the description of the concept of a circle...

Huh? What do you mean by "real life doesn't fit the description of the concept of a circle"?

Is there a philosophical proof that is eluding me here? XD

"a circle in real life doesn't fit the description" Big Grin

No matter how hard you try, you won't ever draw a "circle" because the definition of a circle (an infinite amount of points a distance r from the centre) makes it impossible to draw/create one in real life.
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RE: Pi is the answer
April 30, 2013 at 1:21 pm
(April 30, 2013 at 10:04 am)Tonus Wrote: Is he at least on speaking terms with Fibonacci?

No, but he's got Graham's number.
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RE: Pi is the answer
April 30, 2013 at 4:53 pm
Here are some pi limericks/poems that I like.


There was a young student from Rye,
Who worked out the value of pi.
"It happens," said he,
"That it's just over 3,
Though I'd rather you don't ask me why."


If inside a circle a line
Hits the center and goes spine to spine
And the line’s length is “d,”
The circumference will be
d times 3 point 1 4 1 5 9.


Now there is an ancient Greek letter,
And I think no other is better.
It isn't too tall,
It might look very small,
But its digits - they go on forever.


Three point one four one five nine two,
It's been around forever - it's not new.
It appears everywhere - in here and in there,
It's irrational I know, but it's true!
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