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RE: Proving God Existence
May 19, 2013 at 4:48 am
(May 19, 2013 at 4:31 am)Muslim Scholar Wrote: (May 19, 2013 at 4:26 am)downbeatplumb Wrote: I think you have that backwards.
I have no deep seated longing to believe there is no god.
God just seems a remarkably silly idea and the evidence seems to back that up. Quote:What evidences?
The lack of any requirement to invoke the supernatural for anything at all suggests that the supernatural is a fiction.
So for my evidence I shall point you in the direction of science and the scientific method.
Allah did not create anything, science can explain most of it and is working on the rest.
Allah does not reign over an afterlife as there is no evidence for an afterlife, when you die all the evidence says that that is it.
Archaeology does not agree with much of the old testament which was plagerised by your lot was it not.
Anyhoo show me evidence for god.
Quote:Theists are the ones that have a lot invested in their beliefs I do not, the only outward display of my atheism is that I come here.
Why don't you try to refute my proof???
Fuck me.....will you stop going on about your vapid "proof" which has been throughly refuted ad infinitum. I wont go into it with you as better minds than mine have already trashed it.
What I will say is that you can use the same flawed "logic" you used to justify anything at all.
All you have to do is present a premiss and work out how to make it so it is the only seemingly logical choice.
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RE: Proving God Existence
May 19, 2013 at 4:55 am
(May 19, 2013 at 4:31 am)Muslim Scholar Wrote: (May 19, 2013 at 4:26 am)downbeatplumb Wrote: I think you have that backwards.
I have no deep seated longing to believe there is no god.
God just seems a remarkably silly idea and the evidence seems to back that up. What evidences?
Quote:Theists are the ones that have a lot invested in their beliefs I do not, the only outward display of my atheism is that I come here.
Why don't you try to refute my proof???
Your proof has been refuted. You are just so blind by your faith in the bronze age thinking, that you cannot see the flaws.
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RE: Proving God Existence
May 19, 2013 at 8:17 am
(This post was last modified: May 19, 2013 at 8:22 am by Ryantology.)
I have refuted your proof. Others have refuted it, before and after me. Half of the Allah-damned forum has had a turn bending your proof backwards and poking it so full of holes that even Michelle Duggar clenches her loins shut with tears in her eyes at the thought of it. Get the fuck out of here with your amateur-hour cocksuckery. You built the mosque and we done brought the bacon up in that bitch.
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RE: Proving God Existence
May 19, 2013 at 8:24 am
(This post was last modified: May 19, 2013 at 8:24 am by ideologue08.)
(May 19, 2013 at 8:17 am)Ryantology Wrote: I have refuted your proof. Others have refuted it, before and after me. Half of the Allah-damned forum has had a turn bending your proof backwards and poking it so full of holes that even Michelle Duggar clenches her loins shut with tears in her eyes at the thought of it. Get the fuck out of here with your amateur-hour cocksuckery. You built the mosque and we done brought the bacon up in that bitch. You didn't refute anything, you're just piggybacking on other people's posts so if there's anyone who should shut the fuck up and get the fuck out it's you tough guy.
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RE: Proving God Existence
May 19, 2013 at 8:59 am
Is that supposed to be irony?
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RE: Proving God Existence
May 19, 2013 at 9:07 am
(May 18, 2013 at 4:22 am)Muslim Scholar Wrote: I just proved that the universe had a creator, and he is
Unique (nothing similar to him/it)
One
External to the universe
Beyond time
Has no Image
In other words, you "proved" that the universe was created by a being that we cannot possibly detect.
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RE: Proving God Existence
May 20, 2013 at 1:49 am
(This post was last modified: May 20, 2013 at 1:51 am by Muslim Scholar.)
(May 19, 2013 at 9:07 am)Tonus Wrote: (May 18, 2013 at 4:22 am)Muslim Scholar Wrote: I just proved that the universe had a creator, and he is
Unique (nothing similar to him/it)
One
External to the universe
Beyond time
Has no Image
In other words, you "proved" that the universe was created by a being that we cannot possibly detect.
ً If you mean by detect physically see/touch him, yes we cannot detect him
but we already proved his existence and we can see his actions
Can you detect gravity? however you can see its effect.
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RE: Proving God Existence
May 20, 2013 at 1:58 am
(May 20, 2013 at 1:49 am)Muslim Scholar Wrote: Can you detect gravity? however you can see its effect.
When we discover what causes the effects of gravity, and are therefore able to detect it, what will you say then?
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RE: Proving God Existence
May 20, 2013 at 2:04 am
(May 20, 2013 at 1:49 am)Muslim Scholar Wrote: If you mean by detect physically see/touch him, yes we cannot detect him
but we already proved his existence and we can see his actions
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Have you?! Have you fucking really?!
Where was that? Or are you just missing the scores of rebuttals swarming all over this thread?
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RE: Proving God Existence
May 20, 2013 at 2:51 am
(May 20, 2013 at 1:49 am)Muslim Scholar Wrote: Can you detect gravity? however you can see its effect. It's one thing to say you cannot give a reason why gravity exists and a completely different thing to say that because we can't explain it it means there must be a God. The one doesn't follow from the other at all.
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