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RE: Why atheism is irrational
September 25, 2013 at 1:15 am
(September 24, 2013 at 11:16 pm)Maelstrom Wrote: In the famous words of apophenia, What a bunch of hooey.
This guy registered here half a year ago, claiming to be an atheist, and then posted weeks of idiotic bullshit. He then disapeared after posting some of the most disgusting sexist bullshit. He will not deliver a single argument, all he posted and probably will ever post are insults and idiotic claims based on thin air.
At least now he is not claiming to be an atheist whilest posting his useless rubbish.
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RE: Why atheism is irrational
September 25, 2013 at 1:23 am
(This post was last modified: September 25, 2013 at 1:24 am by Whateverist.)
(September 24, 2013 at 11:14 pm)Vincenzo "Vinny" G. Wrote: A lot of us point to the supposed intelligence of atheists, but what I've come to realize is that most of us have become atheists at quite a young age. Too young, honestly, to have a full grasp of our logical faculties or the world around us. Age 13 or 14 is simply not when your mind is fully developed. This includes the vast majority of atheist intellectuals who become atheists at a young age and just engage in confirmation bias throughout their academic careers.
I've said it before: it doesn't take a genius to be an atheist and neither will it prevent you from being an idiot. Atheists are just people without a whole lot in common aside from the lack of religious belief.
As for the age at which folk become atheists, I hope you do realize how very much younger most of the religious are when they are indoctrinated as theists?
(September 24, 2013 at 11:14 pm)Vincenzo "Vinny" G. Wrote: Atheists whine. A lot. If you spend time on internet forums, you notice 98% of their time is spent hating Christians and whining about Christianity. For a "rational", "skeptical" group of people, such lack of rationality is alarmingly hypocritical.
About matters of the intellect, atheists are very superficially educated. They have a basic foundation down "EVOLUTION RULZ, GOD SUX HAHA I HAVE BIBEL VURSES THAT SUX LOL" but fundamental nuances are often glossed over or missed because their interest is not in knowing things, but in confirming what they want to be true.
If you stop to realize that all you say applies to many people generally and that people is all atheists really are, you might not be so surprised to realize we take all kinds.
(September 24, 2013 at 11:14 pm)Vincenzo "Vinny" G. Wrote: When I started off as a skeptic, I started with a sense of intimidation. I was scared of all the intellectuals. Now that I'm a little older, a little smarter, a little more educated....I feel sorry for them.
You've come a long way, Vinnie. You've gone from being intimidated to trying to intimidate. But is that really progress? Also, why do you have a picture of John Searle as your avatar?
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RE: Why atheism is irrational
September 25, 2013 at 6:20 am
When I was young, there was a god with infinite power protecting me. Is there anyone else who felt that way? And was sure about it? but the first time I fell in love, I was thrown down - or maybe I broke free - and I bade farewell to God and became human. Now I don't have God's protection, and I walk on the ground without wings, but I don't regret this hardship. I want to live as a person. -Arina Tanemura
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RE: Why atheism is irrational
September 25, 2013 at 6:48 am
(September 24, 2013 at 11:14 pm)Vincenzo "Vinny" G. Wrote: I had some time, so I came back to pay a visit to my friends over on this forum. Sup.
And I've been thinking about rationality lately. Let me just lay it on you like butter on toast.
Almost all atheism is irrational. Why?
A lot of us point to the supposed intelligence of atheists, but what I've come to realize is that most of us have become atheists at quite a young age. Too young, honestly, to have a full grasp of our logical faculties or the world around us. Age 13 or 14 is simply not when your mind is fully developed. This includes the vast majority of atheist intellectuals who become atheists at a young age and just engage in confirmation bias throughout their academic careers. Such young ages of atheists just show how stupid those who cling to that belief are.
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RE: Why atheism is irrational
September 25, 2013 at 6:49 am
Hmmm...
(September 24, 2013 at 11:14 pm)Vincenzo "Vinny" G. Wrote: If you spend time on internet forums, you notice 98% of their time is spent hating Christians and whining about Christianity.
[. . .]
"Ah but Vinny Gabagool, atheists know more about the Bible, look at the stats!" You will say, no doubt pointing to some stats.
Just sayin'.
At the age of five, Skagra decided emphatically that God did not exist. This revelation tends to make most people in the universe who have it react in one of two ways - with relief or with despair. Only Skagra responded to it by thinking, 'Wait a second. That means there's a situation vacant.'
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RE: Why atheism is irrational
September 25, 2013 at 6:50 am
Oh, and you trying to arouse me again, Kaye?
It's working...
At the age of five, Skagra decided emphatically that God did not exist. This revelation tends to make most people in the universe who have it react in one of two ways - with relief or with despair. Only Skagra responded to it by thinking, 'Wait a second. That means there's a situation vacant.'
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RE: Why atheism is irrational
September 25, 2013 at 7:47 am
(This post was last modified: September 25, 2013 at 7:48 am by gall.)
(September 24, 2013 at 11:14 pm)Vincenzo "Vinny" G. Wrote: I had some time, so I came back to pay a visit to my friends over on this forum. Sup.
And I've been thinking about rationality lately. Let me just lay it on you like butter on toast.
Almost all atheism is irrational. Why?
A lot of us point to the supposed intelligence of atheists, but what I've come to realize is that most of us have become atheists at quite a young age. Too young, honestly, to have a full grasp of our logical faculties or the world around us. Age 13 or 14 is simply not when your mind is fully developed. This includes the vast majority of atheist intellectuals who become atheists at a young age and just engage in confirmation bias throughout their academic careers.
Atheists whine. A lot. If you spend time on internet forums, you notice 98% of their time is spent hating Christians and whining about Christianity. For a "rational", "skeptical" group of people, such lack of rationality is alarmingly hypocritical.
About matters of the intellect, atheists are very superficially educated. They have a basic foundation down "EVOLUTION RULZ, GOD SUX HAHA I HAVE BIBEL VURSES THAT SUX LOL" but fundamental nuances are often glossed over or missed because their interest is not in knowing things, but in confirming what they want to be true.
"Ah but Vinny Gabagool, atheists know more about the Bible, look at the stats!" You will say, no doubt pointing to some stats. "Nonsense!" I will reply. While most religions are entirely focused on knowing about their own religion, atheists, for the most part are anti-theists. So everything they need to know is anti-religious dogma. Biblical contradictions, the euthyphro dilemma, wise-ass sayings that are actually nonsensical- these are de facto atheist teachings. So of course, they would "know more" their entire existence depends on their hatred against people who believe in a God!
When I started off as a skeptic, I started with a sense of intimidation. I was scared of all the intellectuals. Now that I'm a little older, a little smarter, a little more educated....I feel sorry for them.
You got the title to your post wrong...
It should read
Why Christianity is irrational
100% of the negative things you say about atheist here could be attributed to almost any christian I have ever met. Intelligence is the limiting factor in acceptance of belief. That works both ways and the diatribe you spewed out here is not an example of anything but your opinion. I know intelligent people on both sides of this argument and they all would take offense to the way you describe this.
(September 25, 2013 at 1:23 am)whateverist Wrote: (September 24, 2013 at 11:14 pm)Vincenzo "Vinny" G. Wrote: A lot of us point to the supposed intelligence of atheists, but what I've come to realize is that most of us have become atheists at quite a young age. Too young, honestly, to have a full grasp of our logical faculties or the world around us. Age 13 or 14 is simply not when your mind is fully developed. This includes the vast majority of atheist intellectuals who become atheists at a young age and just engage in confirmation bias throughout their academic careers.
I've said it before: it doesn't take a genius to be an atheist and neither will it prevent you from being an idiot. Atheists are just people without a whole lot in common aside from the lack of religious belief.
As for the age at which folk become atheists, I hope you do realize how very much younger most of the religious are when they are indoctrinated as theists?
(September 24, 2013 at 11:14 pm)Vincenzo "Vinny" G. Wrote: Atheists whine. A lot. If you spend time on internet forums, you notice 98% of their time is spent hating Christians and whining about Christianity. For a "rational", "skeptical" group of people, such lack of rationality is alarmingly hypocritical.
About matters of the intellect, atheists are very superficially educated. They have a basic foundation down "EVOLUTION RULZ, GOD SUX HAHA I HAVE BIBEL VURSES THAT SUX LOL" but fundamental nuances are often glossed over or missed because their interest is not in knowing things, but in confirming what they want to be true.
If you stop to realize that all you say applies to many people generally and that people is all atheists really are, you might not be so surprised to realize we take all kinds.
(September 24, 2013 at 11:14 pm)Vincenzo "Vinny" G. Wrote: When I started off as a skeptic, I started with a sense of intimidation. I was scared of all the intellectuals. Now that I'm a little older, a little smarter, a little more educated....I feel sorry for them.
You've come a long way, Vinnie. You've gone from being intimidated to trying to intimidate. But is that really progress? Also, why do you have a picture of John Searle as your avatar?
I could turn this reply against you in a viscous and terrible way but I think anyone with any real RATIONALITY or reason will see this load of BS for what it is on their own. Try harder this is transparent.
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RE: Why atheism is irrational
September 25, 2013 at 9:32 am
(September 25, 2013 at 7:47 am)gall Wrote: (September 25, 2013 at 1:23 am)whateverist Wrote: I've said it before: it doesn't take a genius to be an atheist and neither will it prevent you from being an idiot. Atheists are just people without a whole lot in common aside from the lack of religious belief.
As for the age at which folk become atheists, I hope you do realize how very much younger most of the religious are when they are indoctrinated as theists?
If you stop to realize that all you say applies to many people generally and that people is all atheists really are, you might not be so surprised to realize we take all kinds.
You've come a long way, Vinnie. You've gone from being intimidated to trying to intimidate. But is that really progress? Also, why do you have a picture of John Searle as your avatar?
I could turn this reply against you in a viscous and terrible way but I think anyone with any real RATIONALITY or reason will see this load of BS for what it is on their own. Try harder this is transparent.
Really? Well now you have pricked my curiosity. What about my reply do you object to? Don't worry, I can take it.
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RE: Why atheism is irrational
September 25, 2013 at 9:48 am
(This post was last modified: September 25, 2013 at 9:54 am by gall.)
(September 25, 2013 at 9:32 am)whateverist Wrote: (September 25, 2013 at 7:47 am)gall Wrote: I could turn this reply against you in a viscous and terrible way but I think anyone with any real RATIONALITY or reason will see this load of BS for what it is on their own. Try harder this is transparent.
Really? Well now you have pricked my curiosity. What about my reply do you object to? Don't worry, I can take it.
I am not sure what happened here. This is not quoted correctly and my reply seems not to be showing the way I typed it. I did not look closely after i pushed reply... this seems to have misaligned the quotes and it doesn't make the proper sense now. I will have to post another reply and go back and read them all again.
It made sense the first time and it doesn't now the way it is written. I promise I was not drunk.
(September 25, 2013 at 9:48 am)gall Wrote: (September 25, 2013 at 9:32 am)whateverist Wrote: Really? Well now you have pricked my curiosity. What about my reply do you object to? Don't worry, I can take it.
I am not sure what happened here. This is not quoted correctly and my reply seems not to be showing the way I typed it. I did not look closely after i pushed reply... this seems to have misaligned the quotes and it doesn't make the proper sense now. I will have to post another reply and go back and read them all again.
It made sense the first time and it doesn't now the way it is written. I promise I was not drunk.
Ok I reread the OP.
Man really? Try harder. While my response got all garbled to something I was not clear on this should not be.
Quote:I had some time, so I came back to pay a visit to my friends over on this forum. Sup.
And I've been thinking about rationality lately. Let me just lay it on you like butter on toast.
Almost all atheism is irrational. Why?
A lot of us point to the supposed intelligence of atheists, but what I've come to realize is that most of us have become atheists at quite a young age. Too young, honestly, to have a full grasp of our logical faculties or the world around us. Age 13 or 14 is simply not when your mind is fully developed. This includes the vast majority of atheist intellectuals who become atheists at a young age and just engage in confirmation bias throughout their academic careers.
Atheists whine. A lot. If you spend time on internet forums, you notice 98% of their time is spent hating Christians and whining about Christianity. For a "rational", "skeptical" group of people, such lack of rationality is alarmingly hypocritical.
About matters of the intellect, atheists are very superficially educated. They have a basic foundation down "EVOLUTION RULZ, GOD SUX HAHA I HAVE BIBEL VURSES THAT SUX LOL" but fundamental nuances are often glossed over or missed because their interest is not in knowing things, but in confirming what they want to be true.
"Ah but Vinny Gabagool, atheists know more about the Bible, look at the stats!" You will say, no doubt pointing to some stats. "Nonsense!" I will reply. While most religions are entirely focused on knowing about their own religion, atheists, for the most part are anti-theists. So everything they need to know is anti-religious dogma. Biblical contradictions, the euthyphro dilemma, wise-ass sayings that are actually nonsensical- these are de facto atheist teachings. So of course, they would "know more" their entire existence depends on their hatred against people who believe in a God!
When I started off as a skeptic, I started with a sense of intimidation. I was scared of all the intellectuals. Now that I'm a little older, a little smarter, a little more educated....I feel sorry for them.
sorry having some quote issues today...
There is the OP above.
I am not gonna waste time just gonna say it like I read it. This is a load of generalized bullshit. It means nothing it is your opinion written as intellectual "fact". So you feel sorry for those with intellect and maybe education? Why is that? Is it maybe because you found that you really were not like them in the end and were never going to be and needed to lash out at those intellectually above you in order to make yourself feel more comfortable?
All I see this as is an angry rant really.
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RE: Why atheism is irrational
September 25, 2013 at 9:51 am
Claims atheism is irrational. Defends it by pointing out how some atheists act irrationally.
With that kind of logic, who are you to speak of rationality?
Wait...what the fuck am I doing? Did I actually engage Vinny the troll in a conversation? Here's what you really deserve...
Even if the open windows of science at first make us shiver after the cozy indoor warmth of traditional humanizing myths, in the end the fresh air brings vigor, and the great spaces have a splendor of their own - Bertrand Russell
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