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Pro abortion or not
RE: Pro abortion or not
(January 1, 2014 at 5:08 pm)Belac Enrobso Wrote:
(January 1, 2014 at 4:39 pm)Lek Wrote: Pregnancy isn't some small thing, it causes permanent changes to a woman that shouldn't be forced on her. It could even kill her, you know.
Quote:That's why people shouldn't be playing big people's games when they're not ready to accept the consequences. Pregnancy comes with having sex. We don't just have mothers here, but also fathers and children. According to what I read, the mothers don't care about anybody but themselves. Why not think and care about everyone involved? And that goes for fathers too. If you love each other you'll care about each other. I guess the mentality is that we're just like any other animals. What an outlook on life! The more I read this stuff, the more sure I become about my beliefs.

Worst case scenario:

You partake in sex while wearing two condoms, both that have spermicidal fluid inside and outside of the condom. One problem, just as you hit that screaming climax, you bust the biggest LOAD of your life, and the entire front ends of both condoms explode releasing your seed into your partner.
As you know most men shit bricks by the truckloads in this particular situation, but not you, your calm, collected, cool, and semi-hard from the fucking THRILL!
You have an ace up your sleeve. Plan B pills! But wait! You don't have any on you.
So Boeing the calm, cool, collected, semi-hard badass that you are, you go to walgreens to buy some plan B pills, only, THERE FUCKING OUT OF PLAN B PILLS!!!! Now your a little worried but still completely calm, and that semi-hard boner is now flaccid,limp, Vienne sausage, go figure, not all men luck out with genetics. You go up to the font desk and ask the receptionist if they have any more plan B pills in stock, the receptionist says no, 20 other men within the last two hours have came in and bought every last pill in the store. You shrug this off and go to the other drugstore that right down the road, how convenient. You try to find the pills, but there are none. Again you ask the receptionist if they have any pills in stock, they have none. So you hit every other store in town and run into the same problem, nobody has pills, SHIT... now what.
Well you decide to order some with fast shipping Damnit!
You go home, open your sweet ass MacBook Air laptop, save those pornograpgic videos that you and your partner were making, I honestly don't know you think you could have a shot in the porn biz but hey, this is America. You go to the plan B site, try to order some, pills, and guess what, they don't have pills either. You become much more sporadic now as your fingers twitch at the numbers on your cell phone as you fail the number to the Plan B help center, you ask, excuse me, BUT WHY ARE THERE NO FUCKING PLAN B PILLS IN STOCK!
The receptionist then, replies, well sir, there has been a large recall for Lifestyle brand regular condoms( I told you not everyman lucks out with genetics, no shame in that)
due to consistent breaking, stock of plan B pills will be sent out to your nearest store in a week once production catches up with demand. You Fucking SCREAM at the top of your lungs as you throne the phone at the wall and shatter your cellular device.
One week later your partner gets a positive reading on her at home pregnancy test.
What do you do?

That was colourful, lol.

Btw for all of you who are holding on to the "sanctity of life" argument, plan B pills work by preventing the fertilized egg from implanting. So it's just like a really really early abortion.
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RE: Pro abortion or not
(January 1, 2014 at 4:39 pm)Lek Wrote: That's why people shouldn't be playing big people's games when they're not ready to accept the consequences.


I thought deciding to have an abortion in a society with a wild west economic system which doesn't take care of children was dealing with the consequences. She took care not to create the baby no one wants to support. You should applaud her, Luckless.
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RE: Pro abortion or not
(January 1, 2014 at 5:28 pm)whateverist Wrote:
(January 1, 2014 at 4:39 pm)Lek Wrote: That's why people shouldn't be playing big people's games when they're not ready to accept the consequences.


I thought deciding to have an abortion in a society with a wild west economic system which doesn't take care of children was dealing with the consequences. She took care not to create the baby no one wants to support. You should applaud her, Luckless.

No. First of all , she should have realized she could get pregnant before she had sex and she should have respected the life she helped to create. She should have had the sex in a marital relationship with a husband who she loved and he loved her. Both should have been honorable enough to raise, love and care for a child which resulted or use birth control. If the birth control didn't work then the previous statement applies. I'm not talking about what the law says. I'm talking about what is the right thing to do. See, I believe the only way to get rid of so many unwanted and neglected children is for peoples hearts to be changed. We've become a society concerned only with personal gratification. We're like a bunch of kids who just want to have fun with no consequences.
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RE: Pro abortion or not
You are so full of should. (No one cares.)
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RE: Pro abortion or not
(January 1, 2014 at 6:13 pm)Lek Wrote: We've become a society concerned only with personal gratification. We're like a bunch of kids who just want to have fun with no consequences.

After reading this I can conclude that you have never had a conversation nor comforted someone who has decided to get an abortion. No consequences?
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RE: Pro abortion or not
Kids? You think electing to have an abortion is a choice someone is capable of making without a great deal of maturity and responsibility?

You are ignoring reality and pretending as if this is a perfect little world where having an accidental pregnancy means having the necessary funds to raise a child, because no one should ever have sex before they're financially independent and have a baby room. And then you go on to pretend like the option to have an abortion isn't there, because you don't like it. So people shouldn't think about it, just do as you say, because you are so much more important than others.

You are a child who wants others to make him happy without caring about how anyone else feels. Grow up or go sit at the kid's table.
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RE: Pro abortion or not
(January 1, 2014 at 6:13 pm)Lek Wrote: No. First of all , she should have realized she could get pregnant before she had sex and she should have respected the life she helped to create. She should have had the sex in a marital relationship with a husband who she loved and he loved her. Both should have been honorable enough to raise, love and care for a child which resulted or use birth control. If the birth control didn't work then the previous statement applies. I'm not talking about what the law says. I'm talking about what is the right thing to do. See, I believe the only way to get rid of so many unwanted and neglected children is for peoples hearts to be changed. We've become a society concerned only with personal gratification. We're like a bunch of kids who just want to have fun with no consequences.
Fuck marriage. I'll have sex with whoever I want (well, they get some say too, but whatever). What century are you living in where you think a woman should only have sex with her "owner"? Married women have shitloads of abortions, anyway. Being married doesn't suddenly mean you want or can afford a child. The best way to get rid of unwanted children is wide availability good sex education, contraception and abortion.
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RE: Pro abortion or not
I heard what you all said. I do want to convince you because I believe the nation is going to pot and I think we need to return to what made us great. My intention is not to attack any individual personally, but to put my views out there.
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RE: Pro abortion or not
Hey Lek, suppose you're married, with 3 kids, minimum wage job, but it's enough to make ends meet.
Then, all of a sudden, bam, new pregnancy.
What then?

A guy is married so he can shag his wife, at least once a week.. is it too much to ask? (I think the wife also wants that share of the deal)
That's at least 52 shags a year... with a 99% success rate for condoms, for each two years of marriage one condom is expected to fail.
If the wife gets married at 30, she can envision some 20 more years before menopause hits, so... 10 kids, even with protection.
Add the pill effect on top of that 99% and make 99.99%, one every 10000 shags, at one a week... 100 per 2 years... 20 years... one (unexpected) kid.
But let's be honest, the the wife is on the pill, which husband will wear a condom?!?
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RE: Pro abortion or not
(January 1, 2014 at 6:37 pm)NoraBrimstone Wrote: I'll have sex with whoever I want (well, they get some say too, but for whateverist).

Hey, why don't I get any say about whether or not we have sex? Ah hell, who am I fooling. Do with me as you will. Think of me as your fuck toy.



Note: some tampering was done with Nora's quote to better approximate my fantasy. No actual women were besmirched by my fantasy.
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