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(January 2, 2014 at 5:32 pm)BrokenQuill92 Wrote:
(January 2, 2014 at 5:24 pm)Fidel_Castronaut Wrote: So BQ92, do you or have you ever had a guide dog?

There's a chap who has a guide dog who gets on the train at my station and I've seen people stroke his dog. I've always thought it wrong to interfere as they perform a pretty vital task, but never had any clear clarification on it.

Interested to hear your thoughts.
My friend Jessica has a great dog and usually I don't pat Pippin unless his harness is off, or we're just sitting in the car or something like that. It's usually not a good thing for strangers to touch the dog but usually if you're a close personal friend the person won't mind too much.

My mobility unfortunately is not good enough for me to have a dog. Guide dogs are for people who've progressed past the use of a cane. I will probably never reach that point. Not to mention it's expensive and time-consuming to do the training since you have to start from puppyhood. I'm already taking off school to learn braille I don't want to have to also take off school to train a dog.

Pippin. Ha, nice name.

So I'm guessing you're from the US? Do you have to train your own guide dogs? I didn't realise. In the UK (where I'm from) as far as I'm aware charities train them and then give them to people who need them (or are deemed to need them).

But I don't know much about it beyond what I've seen in documentaries unfortunately.
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#42
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So we've gone from a discussion of the inappropriateness of people touching the sight impaired without permission to dredging up slights from a year or more ago?

Drich, are you by any chance one of my old girlfriends?
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#43
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(January 2, 2014 at 5:41 pm)Fidel_Castronaut Wrote:
(January 2, 2014 at 5:32 pm)BrokenQuill92 Wrote: My friend Jessica has a great dog and usually I don't pat Pippin unless his harness is off, or we're just sitting in the car or something like that. It's usually not a good thing for strangers to touch the dog but usually if you're a close personal friend the person won't mind too much.

My mobility unfortunately is not good enough for me to have a dog. Guide dogs are for people who've progressed past the use of a cane. I will probably never reach that point. Not to mention it's expensive and time-consuming to do the training since you have to start from puppyhood. I'm already taking off school to learn braille I don't want to have to also take off school to train a dog.

Pippin. Ha, nice name.

So I'm guessing you're from the US? Do you have to train your own guide dogs? I didn't realise. In the UK (where I'm from) as far as I'm aware charities train them and then give them to people who need them (or are deemed to need them).

But I don't know much about it beyond what I've seen in documentaries unfortunately.

Yes and no, you go to a dog training school. The dogs breed and temperament is paired with a person's personality and height. From what I understand from Jessica the training takes about a year and a half.
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#44
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(January 2, 2014 at 5:40 pm)Cthulhu Dreaming Wrote:
(January 2, 2014 at 5:34 pm)Drich Wrote: https://atheistforums.org/thread-15396-p...t=spelling

post 70 sport. If you do a search and really really want to dig i think there are a total of 3 other instances. You cinny and ms. carrots are the repeat offenders.

(post 62 same page) is where i share my cognitive disablity.

Really? This more-than-a-year-old post is an example of where I've made fun of you? I was under the impression that I was simply stating why I don't read or respond to the vast majority of your posts. By your own admission, you don't use spell-check to correct your mistakes, which you could do, if you chose to do to improve the readability of your posts.

From that, the reasonable conclusion is that your posts are the way they are not because of any cognitive deficit, but because you don't give a fuck.

And I was simply asking where and how the Jesus Fish avatar was selected.

what is the difference? we were both identifying a disablity in another person, and made a comment challenging said disablity.

The only difference I see is that one disablity has nothing to do with how one is able to interact with other members in this forum, and the other one does.

What do you see in what i did verses what you did that does not make you a hypocrite here?

(January 2, 2014 at 5:42 pm)Crossless1 Wrote: So we've gone from a discussion of the inappropriateness of people touching the sight impaired without permission to dredging up slights from a year or more ago?

Drich, are you by any chance one of my old girlfriends?

ROFLOL

maybe Wink
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#45
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(January 2, 2014 at 5:47 pm)BrokenQuill92 Wrote:
(January 2, 2014 at 5:41 pm)Fidel_Castronaut Wrote: Pippin. Ha, nice name.

So I'm guessing you're from the US? Do you have to train your own guide dogs? I didn't realise. In the UK (where I'm from) as far as I'm aware charities train them and then give them to people who need them (or are deemed to need them).

But I don't know much about it beyond what I've seen in documentaries unfortunately.

Yes and no, you go to a dog training school. The dogs breed and temperament is paired with a person's personality and height. From what I understand from Jessica the training takes about a year and a half.

When I was a kid, I watched this Japanese series about a labrador guide dog. A dog goes through a lot to be a guide dog. I have a lot of respect for them. I think the show was accurate because like you said, the owner had to learn the right commands and how to care for the dog at a school. I think it says on the show that once the harness is on, the dog is on the job, they only play and have fun when the harness is off. It was a great show, the dog changed his life. It was a really touching show, the dog was amazing and stayed with the owner through his sickness and his death. Breaks your heart, really.

ETA: lol thinking about that show brings tears to my eyes, that dog was really something. If you're interested, it's a Japanese series called Quill (yea, the coincidence, must be god!). Check it out, it's really good.
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#46
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(January 2, 2014 at 5:49 pm)Drich Wrote: And I was simply asking where and how the Jesus Fish avatar was selected.

What Jesus fish avatar, Drich?

(January 2, 2014 at 5:49 pm)Drich Wrote: what is the difference? we were both identifying a disablity in another person, and made a comment challenging said disablity.

Was I aware of your disability, Drich? As a general rule, I don't read your posts unless they're directly responding to myself personally, or as is the case this time - in the performance of my duties as a staff member. Even if I had been aware of it at the time, I said nothing that challenged your disability - I said that I don't read your posts because they are painful to read, and that by your own admission, you make no attempt to correct them, even though you possess the tools and skills to do so. Much the same as I would skip over your posts if you chose to write in text-speak. It isn't about any disability, Drich - it's about your intellectual laziness.

(January 2, 2014 at 5:49 pm)Drich Wrote: The only difference I see is that one disablity has nothing to do with how one is able to interact with other members in this forum, and the other one does.

Really. You think being blind does not affect one's ability to interact with a written forum? You think it doesn't affect one's ability to tell whether someone who assisted in setting up an avatar didn't play a practical joke on them and put up a Jesus fish?

(January 2, 2014 at 5:49 pm)Drich Wrote: What do you see in what i did verses what you did that does not make you a hypocrite here?

For the purposes of argument, let's grant you the most charitable interpretation of what I wrote (in November of 2012), and assume that it was laced with malice.

In that case, the difference would be this: I stopped being a fucking dick, and you kept right on truckin'.
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#47
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Do I need to close this thread so you guys can have this discussion elsewhere? This really isn't my business.
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#48
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(January 2, 2014 at 6:05 pm)BrokenQuill92 Wrote: Do I need to close this thread so you guys can have this discussion elsewhere? This really isn't my business.

No, you're right. I'll happily return to my custom of ignoring what he says. Big Grin

Sorry about that.
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#49
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(January 2, 2014 at 5:58 pm)pineapplebunnybounce Wrote:
(January 2, 2014 at 5:47 pm)BrokenQuill92 Wrote: Yes and no, you go to a dog training school. The dogs breed and temperament is paired with a person's personality and height. From what I understand from Jessica the training takes about a year and a half.

When I was a kid, I watched this Japanese series about a labrador guide dog. A dog goes through a lot to be a guide dog. I have a lot of respect for them. I think the show was accurate because like you said, the owner had to learn the right commands and how to care for the dog at a school. I think it says on the show that once the harness is on, the dog is on the job, they only play and have fun when the harness is off. It was a great show, the dog changed his life. It was a really touching show, the dog was amazing and stayed with the owner through his sickness and his death. Breaks your heart, really.

ETA: lol thinking about that show brings tears to my eyes, that dog was really something. If you're interested, it's a Japanese series called Quill (yea, the coincidence, must be god!). Check it out, it's really good.

Is there an English dub? If not I'll just have to watch it with someone.

(January 2, 2014 at 6:07 pm)Cthulhu Dreaming Wrote:
(January 2, 2014 at 6:05 pm)BrokenQuill92 Wrote: Do I need to close this thread so you guys can have this discussion elsewhere? This really isn't my business.

No, you're right. I'll happily return to my custom of ignoring what he says. Big Grin

Sorry about that.
It's fine, I can see how that would grate on your nerves
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#50
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(January 2, 2014 at 6:09 pm)BrokenQuill92 Wrote:
(January 2, 2014 at 5:58 pm)pineapplebunnybounce Wrote: When I was a kid, I watched this Japanese series about a labrador guide dog. A dog goes through a lot to be a guide dog. I have a lot of respect for them. I think the show was accurate because like you said, the owner had to learn the right commands and how to care for the dog at a school. I think it says on the show that once the harness is on, the dog is on the job, they only play and have fun when the harness is off. It was a great show, the dog changed his life. It was a really touching show, the dog was amazing and stayed with the owner through his sickness and his death. Breaks your heart, really.

ETA: lol thinking about that show brings tears to my eyes, that dog was really something. If you're interested, it's a Japanese series called Quill (yea, the coincidence, must be god!). Check it out, it's really good.

Is there an English dub? If not I'll just have to watch it with someone.

(January 2, 2014 at 6:07 pm)Cthulhu Dreaming Wrote: No, you're right. I'll happily return to my custom of ignoring what he says. Big Grin

Sorry about that.
It's fine, I can see how that would grate on your nerves

My parents bought the CDs with chinese sub. I'm looking it up and apparently it was originally a novel called "The Life of Quill, the Seeing-Eye Dog" and was adapted into a tv drama and a film by NHK. What I watched was the tv drama.

I found english sub DVD of the movie on amazon. link They don't seem to have dub.

They've made an english version where the dog talks, so avoid that, it sounds horrible.

Speaking of really touching dog movies, there's also Hachi, another Japanese film, but I'm too emotionally fragile to watch that.
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