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An unanswerable question
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 (February 9, 2014 at 9:02 pm)Shep Wrote: I often ask theists if god told them to, would they jump off a bridge ... or if god told them to, would they kill a baby ... So... where is this unanswerable question? 
Please give me a home where cloud buffalo roam
Where the dear and the strangers can play
Where sometimes is heard a discouraging word
But the skies are not stormy all day
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(February 9, 2014 at 9:02 pm)Shep Wrote: I often ask theists if god told them to, would they jump off a bridge ... or if god told them to, would they kill a baby ...Not a lot. For what's it's worth, I'm a no.
"Peace is a lie, there is only passion.
Through passion, I gain strength. Through strength, I gain power. Through power, I gain victory. Through victory, my chains are broken." Sith code 
I would like to think I would have the same mind as Abraham:
"By faith Abraham, when he was tested, offered up Isaac, and he who had received the promises offered up his only begotten son, of whom it was said, “In Isaac your seed shall be called,” concluding that God was able to raise him up, even from the dead, from which he also received him in a figurative sense." (Heb 11:17-19) I won't be foolish enough to give a straight "yes" or "no" as Peter said he would never deny the Lord.  RE: An unanswerable question
February 16, 2014 at 6:32 pm
(This post was last modified: February 16, 2014 at 6:33 pm by Ryantology.)
(February 16, 2014 at 6:30 pm)The Good News Wrote: I would like to think I would have the same mind as Abraham: I admire your attempt at something resembling honesty. By the way, never have kids. You're just one brain fart away from doing something terrible.  (February 14, 2014 at 11:54 pm)Drich Wrote: We are told to judge not LEST we can be judged using that very same measure. If your swing the baby killer sword at God know it is double edged, especially if you are a pro choicer. But that just means that god is on a similar level to humans. I agree with that, since I believe that he was created by humans (and therefore displays human qualities) and not the other way around (in which case you must admit that us bloodthirsty atheists are simply reflecting our maker's qualities).
"Well, evolution is a theory. It is also a fact. And facts and theories are different things, not rungs in a hierarchy of increasing certainty. Facts are the world's data. Theories are structures of ideas that explain and interpret facts. Facts don't go away when scientists debate rival theories to explain them. Einstein's theory of gravitation replaced Newton's in this century, but apples didn't suspend themselves in midair, pending the outcome. And humans evolved from ape- like ancestors whether they did so by Darwin's proposed mechanism or by some other yet to be discovered."
-Stephen Jay Gould (February 16, 2014 at 6:32 pm)Ryantology (╯°◊°)╯︵ ══╬ Wrote:(February 16, 2014 at 6:30 pm)The Good News Wrote: I would like to think I would have the same mind as Abraham: Something can only be considered "terrible" because God has decreed it as terrible. Otherwise you are just one moral relativist speaking to another moral relativist. 
That's interesting; because I for one am perfectly capable of determining whether something is terrible without being told how to think. I also know that deep down you do too.
At the age of five, Skagra decided emphatically that God did not exist. This revelation tends to make most people in the universe who have it react in one of two ways - with relief or with despair. Only Skagra responded to it by thinking, 'Wait a second. That means there's a situation vacant.'
(February 16, 2014 at 6:58 pm)Stimbo Wrote: That's interesting; because I for one am perfectly capable of determining whether something is terrible without being told how to think. I also know that deep down you do too. I know that you know what is terrible, but you will often excuse yourself to do things that are wrong. God has given you a conscience: "for when Gentiles, who do not have the law, by nature do the things in the law, these, although not having the law, are a law to themselves, who show the work of the law written in their hearts, their conscience also bearing witness, and between themselves their thoughts accusing or else excusing them" (Rom 2:14,15) 
Bad Wolf
Compulsive procrastinator  Religious Views: Agnostic atheist, anti-theist, whovian, misanthrope?
And you know what is terrible too. I'm not going to insult you by thinking you actually believe what you say.
'The more I learn about people the more I like my dog'- Mark Twain
'You can have all the faith you want in spirits, and the afterlife, and heaven and hell, but when it comes to this world, don't be an idiot. Cause you can tell me you put your faith in God to put you through the day, but when it comes time to cross the road, I know you look both ways.' - Dr House “Young earth creationism is essentially the position that all of modern science, 90% of living scientists and 98% of living biologists, all major university biology departments, every major science journal, the American Academy of Sciences, and every major science organization in the world, are all wrong regarding the origins and development of life….but one particular tribe of uneducated, bronze aged, goat herders got it exactly right.” - Chuck Easttom "If my good friend Doctor Gasparri speaks badly of my mother, he can expect to get punched.....You cannot provoke. You cannot insult the faith of others. You cannot make fun of the faith of others. There is a limit." - Pope Francis on freedom of speech RE: An unanswerable question
February 16, 2014 at 7:13 pm
(This post was last modified: February 16, 2014 at 7:15 pm by Cyberman.)
(February 16, 2014 at 7:09 pm)The Good News Wrote: I know that you know what is terrible, but you will often excuse yourself to do things that are wrong. God has given you a conscience: Prove it. (Biblespam isn't compelling evidence, by the way, unless it comes with independent support. Think of it as trying to build a house on sand, if you like.) Actually, notwithstanding your assertion, what you've basically said is that I, an atheist, am fully capable of doing good things without your spiritual instruction book.
At the age of five, Skagra decided emphatically that God did not exist. This revelation tends to make most people in the universe who have it react in one of two ways - with relief or with despair. Only Skagra responded to it by thinking, 'Wait a second. That means there's a situation vacant.'
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