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Ok I admit it
RE: Ok I admit it
(March 2, 2014 at 7:17 pm)JesusLover1 Wrote: From a scientific and logical realm, Christianity seems to make no sense.
However what atheists neglect is the spiritual realm. There is so much visible power in the relationship believers have with God. It cannot be explained through reason, but only through a personal relationship with Jesus. Study the word without skepticism, ask Jesus to guide you, meditate on Gods's goodness, and ask about spiritual experience from those who have experienced it themselves.

If you're impressed by visible power, check out the percentage of atheists in American prisons compared to the percentage of Christians. The percentage of Christians is roughly the same as their percentage in the general population, while the percentage of atheists in prison is about a tenth of their percentage in the general population. Now THAT's powerful goodness!

(March 3, 2014 at 7:20 am)JesusLover1 Wrote:
(March 3, 2014 at 7:09 am)pocaracas Wrote: Men wrote the bible.
Men claim it to have come from some god, while insisting that you have faith that it was so...
I question the motives of the people who wrote that.

And see no hand of any god anywhere...

But so many have felt it's power.

If you REALLY want to feel some power, try Voodoun. It's electrifying! So the loa must be real, right?
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You all just need faith. God has a free gift for you, but he's a gentlemen, he will not push it on you.
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JL, please answer my question
'The more I learn about people the more I like my dog'- Mark Twain

'You can have all the faith you want in spirits, and the afterlife, and heaven and hell, but when it comes to this world, don't be an idiot. Cause you can tell me you put your faith in God to put you through the day, but when it comes time to cross the road, I know you look both ways.' - Dr House

“Young earth creationism is essentially the position that all of modern science, 90% of living scientists and 98% of living biologists, all major university biology departments, every major science journal, the American Academy of Sciences, and every major science organization in the world, are all wrong regarding the origins and development of life….but one particular tribe of uneducated, bronze aged, goat herders got it exactly right.” - Chuck Easttom

"If my good friend Doctor Gasparri speaks badly of my mother, he can expect to get punched.....You cannot provoke. You cannot insult the faith of others. You cannot make fun of the faith of others. There is a limit." - Pope Francis on freedom of speech
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(March 3, 2014 at 4:24 pm)JesusLover1 Wrote: You all just need faith. God has a free gift for you, but he's a gentlemen, he will not push it on you.

Define what you think 'faith' means. Then I'll get back to you on my relative need for such a thing.
NOT logic:
1. Claim to have logic
2. Throw a tantrum when asked to present it
3. Claim you've already presented it
4. Repeat step 1

*Rampant.A.I.'s quote
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(March 3, 2014 at 4:24 pm)JesusLover1 Wrote: You all just need faith. God has a free gift for you, but he's a gentlemen, he will not push it on you.

Forcing someone to believe in something they don't want to believe in under the threat of eternal torment is not a "gift".

Playing Cluedo with my mum while I was at Uni:

"You did WHAT?  With WHO?  WHERE???"
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RE: Ok I admit it
(March 3, 2014 at 4:24 pm)JesusLover1 Wrote: You all just need faith. God has a free gift for you, but he's a gentlemen, he will not push it on you.

Sure, now tell yourself and your correligionists to do the same Dodgy
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(March 3, 2014 at 4:31 pm)Beccs Wrote:
(March 3, 2014 at 4:24 pm)JesusLover1 Wrote: You all just need faith. God has a free gift for you, but he's a gentlemen, he will not push it on you.

Forcing someone to believe in something they don't want to believe in under the threat of eternal torment is not a "gift".

God does not force them, anyone can choose heaven or hell.

(March 3, 2014 at 4:26 pm)Bad Wolf Wrote: JL, please answer my question

What was it?
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(March 3, 2014 at 4:31 pm)LastPoet Wrote:
(March 3, 2014 at 4:24 pm)JesusLover1 Wrote: You all just need faith. God has a free gift for you, but he's a gentlemen, he will not push it on you.

Sure, now tell yourself and your correligionists to do the same Dodgy

And to stop knocking on my door on a Saturday morning when I'm trying to sleep in after a long shift!

Playing Cluedo with my mum while I was at Uni:

"You did WHAT?  With WHO?  WHERE???"
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RE: Ok I admit it
(March 3, 2014 at 4:33 pm)JesusLover1 Wrote: What was it?

Seriously? go back a page and look
'The more I learn about people the more I like my dog'- Mark Twain

'You can have all the faith you want in spirits, and the afterlife, and heaven and hell, but when it comes to this world, don't be an idiot. Cause you can tell me you put your faith in God to put you through the day, but when it comes time to cross the road, I know you look both ways.' - Dr House

“Young earth creationism is essentially the position that all of modern science, 90% of living scientists and 98% of living biologists, all major university biology departments, every major science journal, the American Academy of Sciences, and every major science organization in the world, are all wrong regarding the origins and development of life….but one particular tribe of uneducated, bronze aged, goat herders got it exactly right.” - Chuck Easttom

"If my good friend Doctor Gasparri speaks badly of my mother, he can expect to get punched.....You cannot provoke. You cannot insult the faith of others. You cannot make fun of the faith of others. There is a limit." - Pope Francis on freedom of speech
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(March 3, 2014 at 4:33 pm)JesusLover1 Wrote:
(March 3, 2014 at 4:31 pm)Beccs Wrote: Forcing someone to believe in something they don't want to believe in under the threat of eternal torment is not a "gift".

God does not force them, anyone can choose heaven or hell.

(March 3, 2014 at 4:26 pm)Bad Wolf Wrote: JL, please answer my question

What was it?

The threat of torture is not free will, however desperately you attempt to justify it.

Playing Cluedo with my mum while I was at Uni:

"You did WHAT?  With WHO?  WHERE???"
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