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GOD IS NOT DEAD
RE: GOD IS NOT DEAD
(April 14, 2014 at 7:02 am)tor Wrote:
(April 14, 2014 at 6:57 am)Esquilax Wrote: Oh no! Books change to reflect that people are learning! How can this science book be reliable if it doesn't stick to its guns and keep all the demonstrably false information and insist that it's true even though we can all literally prove that it isn't!

Learning new things is bad! Confusedhock:

I actually get it too often. One dude said that science is false cause it changes. And truth never changes. So that which never changes is true ROFLOL

God's Word doesn't need to change because it is truth from the very beginning. Science changes as it discovers more about God's creation, unless, it tries to come up with an explanation for what is clearly God's hand.

(April 14, 2014 at 6:59 am)truthBtold Wrote: I just watch the trailer.. I love it when the kid says.. science supports gods existence!! I can't believe I heard that.. so rev.... does it?

absolutely

(April 14, 2014 at 7:09 am)truthBtold Wrote: The kid says.. jesus is my friend! Ha.. I love that.. my sock is my friend when im feeling frisky. . Then after that I dont want to talk to my sock.

Jesus is my friend too Love
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RE: GOD IS NOT DEAD
(April 14, 2014 at 10:39 am)Revelation777 Wrote: absolutely

You do understand this forum doesn't have a rule stating you have to say everything in one sentence or less, right? We actually expect that you will do more than just flatly assert things with nothing to back them up.

Anyone can do that. Here, look: God doesn't exist. Whoops, I guess that's now true, because I did exactly the same thing you do to claims you think are true. Sorry for destroying your god, I guess.
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RE: GOD IS NOT DEAD
(April 14, 2014 at 7:25 am)Brakeman Wrote:
(April 14, 2014 at 6:54 am)Revelation777 Wrote: no thanks, they change too often

Your implication here is that the bible doesn't change. However that is spoken in ignorance too.

The bible stories were generated in an era of competing scriptural authors. It was a gathering of diverse writings and slapped together by violence and political intrigue.

No biblical scholar that isn't stoned out of his head would say that it passed through history unchanged.

Not only that, the book itself is so erratic and vague that it has created thousands of differing interpretations that has resulted in thousands of sects. Each believing that "they" got the true message that the bible god magically imbued into the pages.

Science books are changed mostly by better elaboration and occasionally by new interpretations of observed phenomena. Since they do not lean on authority but rather observation and investigation, they do not suffer the misinterpretations and vagaries that the bible does.

Grow up!

If you did some good study in the Dead Sea scrolls you might be surprised how incredibly unchanging it has been through the centuries
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RE: GOD IS NOT DEAD
(April 14, 2014 at 11:09 am)Revelation777 Wrote:
(April 14, 2014 at 7:25 am)Brakeman Wrote: Your implication here is that the bible doesn't change. However that is spoken in ignorance too.

The bible stories were generated in an era of competing scriptural authors. It was a gathering of diverse writings and slapped together by violence and political intrigue.

No biblical scholar that isn't stoned out of his head would say that it passed through history unchanged.

Not only that, the book itself is so erratic and vague that it has created thousands of differing interpretations that has resulted in thousands of sects. Each believing that "they" got the true message that the bible god magically imbued into the pages.

Science books are changed mostly by better elaboration and occasionally by new interpretations of observed phenomena. Since they do not lean on authority but rather observation and investigation, they do not suffer the misinterpretations and vagaries that the bible does.

Grow up!

If you did some good study in the Dead Sea scrolls you might be surprised how incredibly unchanging it has been through the centuries

Facepalm

You seem yourself to be in need of some good studying on the topic.
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GOD IS NOT DEAD
(April 14, 2014 at 10:39 am)Revelation777 Wrote:
(April 14, 2014 at 7:02 am)tor Wrote: I actually get it too often. One dude said that science is false cause it changes. And truth never changes. So that which never changes is true ROFLOL

God's Word doesn't need to change because it is truth from the very beginning. Science changes as it discovers more about God's creation, unless, it tries to come up with an explanation for what is clearly God's hand.

Oh, so you believe science includes a conspiracy to cover up God. Have you baptized your electronic devices yet? Wouldn't want any of that "sciency" stuff denying God's miracle of the internet or QWERTY keyboards.

"In the name of JAYSUS, connect me to the internet! I can feel the power of GAWD in my mobile device! Blessed be the LTE!"
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RE: GOD IS NOT DEAD
(April 14, 2014 at 6:54 am)Revelation777 Wrote:
(April 14, 2014 at 2:33 am)tor Wrote: Revelation you have no idea what you're talking about. Read a science book.
no thanks, they change too often
Your resistance to progress is noted.
"Well, evolution is a theory. It is also a fact. And facts and theories are different things, not rungs in a hierarchy of increasing certainty. Facts are the world's data. Theories are structures of ideas that explain and interpret facts. Facts don't go away when scientists debate rival theories to explain them. Einstein's theory of gravitation replaced Newton's in this century, but apples didn't suspend themselves in midair, pending the outcome. And humans evolved from ape- like ancestors whether they did so by Darwin's proposed mechanism or by some other yet to be discovered."

-Stephen Jay Gould
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RE: GOD IS NOT DEAD
(April 14, 2014 at 10:16 am)Esquilax Wrote: He loves it, but he absolutely will not tell us a single detail of it. Either he hasn't actually seen it and is recommending it based on the trailer and the mean atheist professor in it, or "I like it because it bolsters my faith and confirms my pre-existing belief that everyone who disagrees with my position secretly agrees with me, but says otherwise due to a need to persecute me personally because of beliefs that we both share, but they won't admit ti," won't be such a ringing endorsement here.

I think it's more like , "I love it but won't share the details of what I liked for fear that they will be torn asunder, threatening my worldview and understanding of reality, and I won't dare entertain the notion that I acually live in a bubble because it is way too comfortable in here."
Even if the open windows of science at first make us shiver after the cozy indoor warmth of traditional humanizing myths, in the end the fresh air brings vigor, and the great spaces have a splendor of their own - Bertrand Russell
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RE: GOD IS NOT DEAD
(April 14, 2014 at 2:10 pm)Tonus Wrote: Your resistance to progress is noted.

It does amaze me when people try to make changing views a bad thing.
Even if the open windows of science at first make us shiver after the cozy indoor warmth of traditional humanizing myths, in the end the fresh air brings vigor, and the great spaces have a splendor of their own - Bertrand Russell
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GOD IS NOT DEAD
It drives me crazy that people can flat-out reject science, while sucking down their packaged snacks, not dying of smallpox, grab a can of soda from the refrigerator, jump on the internet and google some Bible verses and log on to post about how science is bogus.

"This science stuff is crap! It doesn't work! See, this can of Coke isn't even cold!"

If you reject science, act like it. At least the Mennonites are consistent.
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RE: GOD IS NOT DEAD
(April 14, 2014 at 7:05 am)Esquilax Wrote:
(April 14, 2014 at 6:59 am)truthBtold Wrote: I just watch the trailer.. I love it when the kid says.. science supports gods existence!! I can't believe I heard that.. so rev.... does it?

Yeah, I'd like to remind the court that I asked Rev nine pages ago to let us all know what it was he found compelling about this movie, and we've gotten officially nothing.

He liked it so much he's willing to pay for our ticket, but not enough to tell us why he liked it. I get the feeling those reasons wouldn't last very long in an environment of critical inquiry, it's no wonder he's having to keep them safe.

I was hoping you go see it because I can't adequately describe it.

(April 14, 2014 at 6:57 am)Esquilax Wrote:
(April 14, 2014 at 6:54 am)Revelation777 Wrote: no thanks, they change too often

Oh no! Books change to reflect that people are learning! How can this science book be reliable if it doesn't stick to its guns and keep all the demonstrably false information and insist that it's true even though we can all literally prove that it isn't!

Learning new things is bad! Confusedhock:

Hope people learn that there is a God.

(April 14, 2014 at 7:34 am)sven Wrote:
(April 13, 2014 at 8:15 pm)Revelation777 Wrote: I said you and a guest.

The film isn't showing here in Sweden, but me and my friend are dying to see it. The trip to the US will be all expenses paid, of course?
You are saving a soul after all. I will need 500 dollars for initial expenses. Do you need my account information?

no plane tickets...movie tickets
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