Christian humility

[Esquilax]

I gave a response, it was to your vanity, God is not a Christian and I never said He did not do as He promised, just not for Christians even Zid said that response was stupid.

GC

And as I mentioned before, a straight up ad hominem attack is not an argument. It's just you being a dick. "You don't know what you're talking about," also isn't an argument, it's a dismissal.

I made my point, you were unable to respond to it coherently, and now it seems as though you're operating on a double standard where it's okay for god to command genocides, as he's god. I suggest that, unless you have an actual response, not another condescending insult, that you just stay silent in future.

[Zidneya]

Good little minded people make for poor debaters and little mind people with a superiority complex are even worse. I came back and showed you how wrong you are and you cry like a little baby and Esq can only try and run people in the ground because of his inferiority complex. Glad I never have to hear from you again, one annoyance eliminated.

GC

Ladies and gentlemen, let's hear it for Christian hypocrisy humility.

Look at the chickenshit talking so tough, even though I schooled his ass so frequently and forcefully that he has me blocked.

Hahahaha

[Last Things]

I don't think this has anything to do with religion, but fanaticism.

Fanatics hold onto a simplistic world view and they are incredibly insecure. When it is challenged, they resort to rudeness, threats, and insults. It does not matter if a person is religious or not.

Non-religious can resort to insults, religious can resort to threats of hell and the like. I have encountered it with fundamentalist Christians who will ignore all appeals to reason that I am just going to hell for not sharing their view. Non-religious, if they are fanatics, will tell me I am stupid for believing in a bearded man that lives in the clouds and that my faith is nothing more than fairy tales.

Difference being that the latter has at least some semblance of truth.

Also, the latter will not try and kill you for believing differently to them.

Are you kidding? One, it only has truth based on what you believe. Atheists have killed and continue to kill people for being religious.

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You're so vain you can't admit when you show how little you know about God, the Bible and Christianity, if you can live with it I guess the rest of us can.

GC

I've heard this before, I hate to chime in but at least to my knowledge most atheists dislike and disbelief in Christianity is not that they know too little, but they know too much. They know MORE than the average Christian, hence the reason they turn away from it.

It generally has more to do with a one sided fanatical version they 'learn' about from the most annoying people.

[Esquilax]

Are you kidding? One, it only has truth based on what you believe.

Nope, solipsism isn't the answer. Nice try, though.

Atheists have killed and continue to kill people for being religious.

[BlackSwordsman]

Difference being that the latter has at least some semblance of truth.

Also, the latter will not try and kill you for believing differently to them.

Are you kidding? One, it only has truth based on what you believe. Atheists have killed and continue to kill people for being religious.

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I've heard this before, I hate to chime in but at least to my knowledge most atheists dislike and disbelief in Christianity is not that they know too little, but they know too much. They know MORE than the average Christian, hence the reason they turn away from it.

It generally has more to do with a one sided fanatical version they 'learn' about from the most annoying people.

Actually no, many ex-christians grew up in non-extreme christian homes. Some have some haven't so I disagree as that they only learn the Fanatical side. I think they learn enough of both ends to know the toxicity of it.

[Zidneya]

It generally has more to do with a one sided fanatical version they 'learn' about from the most annoying people.

Actually no, many ex-christians grew up in non-extreme christian homes. Some have some haven't so I disagree as that they only learn the Fanatical side. I think they learn enough of both ends to know the toxicity of it.

I don't know if you know this Last Things but we already had discussed this in another thread. I remembered it because I was part of it. This is what I wrote there.

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That's interesting since most atheist I know comes from religious families, specially christian ones.
What do you want from us do you want us to memorize every passage from the bible and tell you why we don't accept it? Because I know atheists who do that.

Cause I guarantee you that those atheist who used to be christians they believed in all the bible stuff, or at least most of it them, they believed faith was a good thing, they believed religion was a beneficial to the world, they believed in the resurrection, they accepted christ in their lives. And then latter in life they all realized that it was all bullshit. And they drop it. They were religious and now there not. Nor condone the atrocities that religion does and think that it's okay to let religion provides beneficial functions that governments should do instead because that it's governments job. That idea that if you are an atheist now but you weren't a religious before nor tried to understand it before that's such a lie don't act like you know us because you don't.
I was religious to begin with I went to Catechism they taught me to understand religion. A lot of ex-christians were christians before and now they are not because they know better.

I guarantee you that if you know an atheist, a full developed atheist that not only doesn't belief in god promotes atheism have read the bible and tried to understand it than most random christians that you know.And if you gave them a quiz atheist would do better. I think some survey has done that particular thing they asks different people what do they know about various religions what the teach and what they have done and the atheist score highest. Because we think about this stuff all the time so we generally understand more. And unlike religious we know about the holes are in particular issues this religions too. So yes I read and tried to understand larges parts the function of religion in this world. Other people have done than and about a whole of holy books too to not only know about christianity but religion in general. I have a question for you.


What atheist teachings have you tried to understand? Do you know their benefits? Their philosophies? How atheist feel after embrace atheism? What have they've done to help other people?
Because if you wanna have this discussion. You you at least should take pains in order to understand atheism, not simply take it as a bunch of critics.

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I mean I don't remember if you were a part of that discussion. Nevertheless if I were you I would stop saying that we just were taught the fanatical version.

[Esquilax]

Actually no, many ex-christians grew up in non-extreme christian homes. Some have some haven't so I disagree as that they only learn the Fanatical side. I think they learn enough of both ends to know the toxicity of it.

It's just a defense mechanism: "Oh, this person left my religion? It must have been some fanatical, twisted, cult version. If they had really been a part of my religion, they still would be!"

[Rampant.A.I.]

Difference being that the latter has at least some semblance of truth.

Also, the latter will not try and kill you for believing differently to them.

Are you kidding? One, it only has truth based on what you believe. Atheists have killed and continue to kill people for being religious.

Really? Name some.

And while you're at it, let's talk about the people killed by Christianity:

Killed by the papacy in the Middle Ages: about 50 million

Inquisition: 32,000 (low estimate) with 300,000 "processed" (read: tortured for no reason)

Crusades: 300,000,000

French War of Religion: 4,000,000

World War 2 (Genocide and world war orchestrated by a devout Catholic): 60,000,000

Genocide of indigenous Americans orchestrated by the Catholic colonization of The Americas: 50,000,000 - 100,000,000

Now, are you going to provide some figures of of atheists killing Christians "for fun," or should we get into the number of life-destroying multiple-year repeated child rapes worldwide systematically condoned and protected by your religion?

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I've heard this before, I hate to chime in but at least to my knowledge most atheists dislike and disbelief in Christianity is not that they know too little, but they know too much. They know MORE than the average Christian, hence the reason they turn away from it.

It generally has more to do with a one sided fanatical version they 'learn' about from the most annoying people.

Directly quoting the bible is one-sided and fanatical? Most supposed "Christians" don't even bother reading it, no wonder you think direct quotes are "fanatical," it's because they are

[Zidneya]

Difference being that the latter has at least some semblance of truth.

Also, the latter will not try and kill you for believing differently to them.

Are you kidding? One, it only has truth based on what you believe. Atheists have killed and continue to kill people for being religious.

Yeah…..right…..
Because the history is filled with religious people massacred by atheists. Mmmm that's funny BECAUSE IF HISTORY HAS SOMETHING TO TELL US IS THE EXACT OPPOSITE OF THAT!!




One day you are gonna have to face the fact that religious have killed and continue to kill people for not sharing their beliefs. Seriously pal I don't know where you get this stuff. For starter tell me. Why atheists would kill religious people in the first place because you should know that:

• Atheists do not have to hate anyone. There is no doctrine that promotes violence against believers.
  
• Atheists have higher growth in moral development. Famous American psychologist Lawrence Kohlberg writes that at the highest levels of moral development - moral judgments must be justified by rational moral reasons rather than appeal to the order of nature or of religious authority or revelation. While Freud suggested that religion serves to undermine the moral responsibility while promoting bigotry, said that people who behave morally only for fear of supernatural punishment, it is unlikely to respect and care for others from an altruistic perspective.
  

[Esquilax]

Guys, we don't need to run when he's not chasing us. Last Things gave us nothing more than a single sentence, throwaway assertion; the proper response is to simply say "fucking prove it."

You don't need to waste your precious mental energy on a pissing contest with this guy. He clearly hasn't.