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Snowden
May 29, 2014 at 5:02 pm
I watched the interview last night with Bryan Williams.

Complex guy. Idealistic yet rational. And, of course, the documents he leaked show that the government is full of shit.... which we knew but never had the evidence and would not have it except for him.
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RE: Snowden
May 29, 2014 at 6:27 pm (This post was last modified: May 29, 2014 at 6:29 pm by Manowar.)
I missed that interview, some say he is a traitor but I say he is a patriot, he gave up his life in the U.S, he family, his job, etc. I hope they give him clemency.

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RE: Snowden
May 30, 2014 at 3:58 pm
He clearly broke the law but he did so to demonstrate that the government broke it first. And he was right.

I agree, clemency is in order. The only reason to make an example of him is to deter future whistle-blowers which is certainly in the interest of the power structure....but not ours.
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RE: Snowden
May 30, 2014 at 4:26 pm
I say pin a medal on the guy.
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RE: Snowden
May 30, 2014 at 5:01 pm (This post was last modified: May 30, 2014 at 5:02 pm by Anomalocaris.)
(May 30, 2014 at 3:58 pm)Minimalist Wrote: He clearly broke the law but he did so to demonstrate that the government broke it first. And he was right.

I agree, clemency is in order.

As well as convictions for all those whose lawbreaking was perversely and self-servingly made illegal for him to reveal.

The president who would pardon him would get my vote.
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RE: Snowden
May 30, 2014 at 5:02 pm
(May 30, 2014 at 5:01 pm)Chuck Wrote:
(May 30, 2014 at 3:58 pm)Minimalist Wrote: He clearly broke the law but he did so to demonstrate that the government broke it first. And he was right.

I agree, clemency is in order.

As well as convictions for all those whose lawbreaking was perversely and self-servingly made illegal for him to reveal.

The president who would pardon him would get my vote.

Good luck with that.
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RE: Snowden
May 30, 2014 at 5:03 pm
Lets keep in mind what he 'illegally' revealed were illegal spying programs of the government that violated U.S. laws, the constitution and international law. So even if you are concerned about the law, Snowden is a hero.
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RE: Snowden
May 30, 2014 at 5:04 pm
(May 30, 2014 at 5:02 pm)Cthulhu Dreaming Wrote:
(May 30, 2014 at 5:01 pm)Chuck Wrote: As well as convictions for all those whose lawbreaking was perversely and self-servingly made illegal for him to reveal.

The president who would pardon him would get my vote.

Good luck with that.

I am just saying what would increase the respectability of united states. I do not say United states is, or ever would be, respectable.
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Re: RE: Snowden
May 30, 2014 at 5:24 pm
(May 30, 2014 at 5:01 pm)Chuck Wrote:
(May 30, 2014 at 3:58 pm)Minimalist Wrote: He clearly broke the law but he did so to demonstrate that the government broke it first. And he was right.

I agree, clemency is in order.

As well as convictions for all those whose lawbreaking was perversely and self-servingly made illegal for him to reveal.

The president who would pardon him would get my vote.

What about the presidents that fostered and allowed this?
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RE: Snowden
May 30, 2014 at 5:31 pm
(May 30, 2014 at 5:24 pm)KUSA Wrote:
(May 30, 2014 at 5:01 pm)Chuck Wrote: As well as convictions for all those whose lawbreaking was perversely and self-servingly made illegal for him to reveal.

The president who would pardon him would get my vote.

What about the presidents that fostered and allowed this?

Ideally or practically?
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