The fact remains if there was this alleged infinite regress of cause and effects atheists cling to, you would have had an eternity to come into being before now, so you should have already happened, so nature needs a cause outside of itself, outside of time and space, being uncreated by the uncreated Creator.
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(August 19, 2014 at 2:56 pm)revivin Wrote: The fact remains if there was this alleged infinite regress of cause and effects atheists cling to, you would have had an eternity to come into being before now, so you should have already happened, so nature needs a cause outside of itself, outside of time and space, being uncreated by the uncreated Creator. Seriously, this guy doesn't give a shit about discussion.
In every country and every age, the priest had been hostile to Liberty.
- Thomas Jefferson
If there was this alleged infinite regress of cause and effects atheists cling to, you would have had an eternity to come into being before now, so you should have already happened, so nature needs a cause outside of itself, outside of time and space, being uncreated by the uncreated Creator.
(August 19, 2014 at 2:59 pm)revivin Wrote: If there was this alleged infinite regress of cause and effects atheists cling to, you would have had an eternity to come into being before now, so you should have already happened, so nature needs a cause outside of itself, outside of time and space, being uncreated by the uncreated Creator. Now you can't even be arsed to check which thread you're on. There goes all hope for any semblance of a rational discussion.
If more of us valued food and cheer and song above hoarded gold, it would be a merrier world. - J.R.R Tolkien
How long has it been since the Ban Hammer tasted Fresh Blood?
Not long, my friend. Not long. (August 19, 2014 at 3:03 pm)Tobie Wrote:(August 19, 2014 at 2:59 pm)revivin Wrote: If there was this alleged infinite regress of cause and effects atheists cling to, you would have had an eternity to come into being before now, so you should have already happened, so nature needs a cause outside of itself, outside of time and space, being uncreated by the uncreated Creator. He's already posted that twice in this thread and once in another. I prophesize he's not long for the board.
In every country and every age, the priest had been hostile to Liberty.
- Thomas Jefferson (August 19, 2014 at 2:59 pm)revivin Wrote: If there was this alleged infinite regress of cause and effects atheists cling to, you would have had an eternity to come into being before now, so you should have already happened, so nature needs a cause outside of itself, outside of time and space, being uncreated by the uncreated Creator. What the hell does that have to do with Orks and Hobbits? (August 19, 2014 at 3:48 am)revivin Wrote:(August 19, 2014 at 3:46 am)Esquilax Wrote: Nor does christianity: none of the gospel writers ever met Jesus. Your fucking gospels do not even make such claims themselves, dummy. (August 19, 2014 at 2:47 pm)revivin Wrote:(August 19, 2014 at 2:42 pm)Tobie Wrote: Are you saying the books of the NT are the documents that were written closest to the time of Jesus? Most estimates put the earliest written NT book at around 50CE, so by your logic there are no historical documents written between 20BCE and 50CE. I don't give a shit when it was written. The people that do came up with that answer. Prove your claims for once. Seriously, your mindless repetition of the same shit over and over got boring a while back.
If more of us valued food and cheer and song above hoarded gold, it would be a merrier world. - J.R.R Tolkien
It's too bad we can't have a conversation with atheists because they shut their minds down. The fact remains if there was this alleged infinite regress of cause and effects atheists cling to, you would have had an eternity to come into being before now, so you should have already happened, so nature needs a cause outside of itself, outside of time and space, being uncreated by the uncreated Creator.
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