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RE: Ken Ham's ark.
January 10, 2015 at 12:07 pm
(January 10, 2015 at 9:53 am)TubbyTubby Wrote: I'd like to see them when the place is jammed and they have to walk through the section slowly with all us heathens. I'd be so tempted to stand next to them and explain things to my kids loud enough for them to hear, it would be sheer fucking delight to watch them squirm and not be able to get away.
I think you're attributing a level of self awareness and consideration to opposing worldviews to creationists that, a lot of the time, simply isn't there. The attitude that many of them have wouldn't allow for them to get uncomfortable, because to become uncomfortable implies some possibility that their children would find the alternative view on display remotely persuasive, which they couldn't possibly do, because creationism is obviously right. You gotta be really closed off to accept creationism, after all, and you can see that among our creationists here, for which a discussion on the merits of creationism rarely ascends beyond the level of "evolution is a lie!" repeated over and over. Perhaps you've seen that youtube video of the homeschooling creationist mother "auditing" a museum?
This is what we have to deal with. She walks through the entire damn museum with her cameraman, slowly panning over every exhibit, and not once in the entire half hour video does she realize that a derisive snort or a "this is a lie!" assertion is not a valid justification for her views. The information is right there, but it never once penetrates the shield of baseless huffy condescension she has.
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RE: Ken Ham's ark.
January 10, 2015 at 12:18 pm
(January 10, 2015 at 12:07 pm)Esquilax Wrote: I think you're attributing a level of self awareness and consideration to opposing worldviews to creationists that, a lot of the time, simply isn't there.
You're quite right of course, I was giving them too much credit I suppose. Yes I've seen the video, good point well made.
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RE: Ken Ham's ark.
January 10, 2015 at 12:19 pm
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(January 10, 2015 at 12:07 pm)Esquilax Wrote: (January 10, 2015 at 9:53 am)TubbyTubby Wrote: I'd like to see them when the place is jammed and they have to walk through the section slowly with all us heathens. I'd be so tempted to stand next to them and explain things to my kids loud enough for them to hear, it would be sheer fucking delight to watch them squirm and not be able to get away.
I think you're attributing a level of self awareness and consideration to opposing worldviews to creationists that, a lot of the time, simply isn't there. The attitude that many of them have wouldn't allow for them to get uncomfortable, because to become uncomfortable implies some possibility that their children would find the alternative view on display remotely persuasive, which they couldn't possibly do, because creationism is obviously right. You gotta be really closed off to accept creationism, after all, and you can see that among our creationists here, for which a discussion on the merits of creationism rarely ascends beyond the level of "evolution is a lie!" repeated over and over. Perhaps you've seen that youtube video of the homeschooling creationist mother "auditing" a museum?
This is what we have to deal with. She walks through the entire damn museum with her cameraman, slowly panning over every exhibit, and not once in the entire half hour video does she realize that a derisive snort or a "this is a lie!" assertion is not a valid justification for her views. The information is right there, but it never once penetrates the shield of baseless huffy condescension she has.
eeehh...i saw this...... before.... cringe lvl 1000
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RE: Ken Ham's ark.
January 10, 2015 at 12:42 pm
She's a special snowflake that one.
Not even a trace of doubt. Not one atom.
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RE: Ken Ham's ark.
January 10, 2015 at 12:48 pm
(January 10, 2015 at 12:42 pm)Jacob(smooth) Wrote: She's a special snowflake that one.
Not even a trace of doubt. Not one atom.
She is a waste of... atoms and molecules... even she would say atoms don't exist.
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RE: Ken Ham's ark.
January 10, 2015 at 1:10 pm
Sometimes you gotta chainsaw people up for their own benefit. Education isn't always peaches and cream.
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RE: Ken Ham's ark.
January 10, 2015 at 1:23 pm
(January 10, 2015 at 1:10 pm)robvalue Wrote: Sometimes you gotta chainsaw people up for their own benefit. Education isn't always peaches and cream.
http://youtu.be/CV2QAuSJJHI
Man i love that game.
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RE: Ken Ham's ark.
January 10, 2015 at 1:45 pm
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Oh yeah, it's terrific, don't know how it sold so badly.
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RE: Ken Ham's ark.
January 10, 2015 at 1:50 pm
(January 10, 2015 at 1:45 pm)robvalue Wrote: Oh yeah, it's terrific, don't know how it sold so badly.
Wii you know not everyone loved it. Well there is the killer series also the other game on wii i like is no more heroes both games.
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RE: Ken Ham's ark.
January 10, 2015 at 4:11 pm
Oh yeah, I played both of those, really good 
I wanna see Just Jack have a go at this ludicrous ark. Do some quality testing.
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