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Is Consciousness external to central nervous systems?
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RE: Is Consciousness external to central nervous systems?
You have to make a lot of foundational assumptions that are not justified in any way. He's doing the same thing that the ancients did when they drew cartoon characters on stone and made gods.
"In our youth, we lacked the maturity, the decency to create gods better than ourselves so that we might have something to aspire to. Instead we are left with a host of deities who were violent, narcissistic, vengeful bullies who reflected our own values. Our gods could have been anything we could imagine, and all we were capable of manifesting were gods who shared the worst of our natures."-Me

"Atheism leaves a man to sense, to philosophy, to natural piety, to laws, to reputation; all of which may be guides to an outward moral virtue, even if religion vanished; but religious superstition dismounts all these and erects an absolute monarchy in the minds of men." – Francis Bacon
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RE: Is Consciousness external to central nervous systems?
(August 11, 2010 at 2:42 pm)Edward the Theist Wrote: Below is a link to a paper I wrote detailing the reasons I believe consciousness exists external to central nervous systems. I realize atheists may have a problem with this notion but I don't understand why.

Even if consciousness is external to the CNS, that doesn't mean God exists, certainly not in the religious sense, anyway. However, it may imply that humans and animals are more than just dirt, and I know atheists hate the idea of that.

At any rate, here is my paper. It's short and easy to read. And if you have any comments on it, I'd love to read them.

http://www.veridican.com/paper1.pdf

I have read most of the paper and find its really full of bad science.

The organism studied is certainly not conscious. The debate about consciousness is still concerned with some of the higher animals let alone the organism mentioned. Sentience is not consciousness.
Its just silly to suggest it is.

On consciousness. I doubt if any animal other than humans demonstrate it other than perhaps those that can recognise themselves in a mirror.

The bit on precognition is so silly I gave up as its an assumption based on statistical possibilities at best. More likely its just fictional rubbish.

Not withstanding that the assumption that the existence of consciousness (in simple organisms) or precognition in the OP could somehow support the existence of a deity is a jump too far by any stretch of the imagination.

If this poster has been banned its a pity as theists using arguments like these really need to be confronted.

Humans and animals are dirt and that's something to be proud of.


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