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Sterben · (This post was last modified: February 24, 2015 at 11:11 pm by Sterben.)

I just watched this documentary film and I thought it was very well done, the sacrifice Edward made for us to know the real truth. I never have trusted the government nor will I ever trust them. It's appealing that the U.S government is even involved with this kind of spy activity. He is hero to me and should be to all. I'm curious what I'm curious what the rest of the community thinks of this film and the man.

**Minimalist** · February 24, 2015 at 11:18 pm

I think you meant to say "appalling."

He should be pardoned.

Sterben · (This post was last modified: February 24, 2015 at 11:30 pm by Sterben.)

Opps lol, *appalling". Even if he is pardoned, they will still try to get him on something. He's better staying in Europe or South America; it's safer there for him. Being stuck in Europe is better then facing a government that wants to throw you in prison.

Mudhammam · (This post was last modified: February 25, 2015 at 1:49 am by Mudhammam.)

Edward Snowden is an American patriot, and quite heroic in that he risked his life by taking on the most powerful government in the world and exposing their violations of the Fourth Amendment. He's also brilliant because he won.

**Minimalist** · February 25, 2015 at 2:25 am

Snowden is a refugee in Russia while this lying fuck

is currently the Director of National Intelligence. What he should be is in prison for perjury.

polar bear · February 25, 2015 at 10:55 am

I agree, Snowden did a service to the world. The US should be just as accountable for their actions as the want other nations to be.

FatAndFaithless · February 25, 2015 at 11:04 am

"How DARE you spy on our phone calls, England! The right to privacy is one of our most fundamental ideas in America!"

"Uh...how did you find out that we were spying on your phone calls?"

"We read it in one of your private emails...."

Sterben · (This post was last modified: February 25, 2015 at 9:30 pm by Sterben.)

Snowden is a patriot and a hero to the world, being ethical and calling out the powerful always as a price; Socrates, Galileo, John Lennon, and Leon Trotsky. All these great men payed a great price for there actions on what was right, which has made the world a better place for us all to live in.

abaris · February 25, 2015 at 9:40 pm

(February 25, 2015 at 9:28 pm)Sterben Wrote: Snowden is a patriot and a hero to the world, being ethical and calling out the powerful always as a price; Socrates, Galileo, John Lennon, and Leon Trotsky.

I wouldn't mention Trotsky in that context. He was as oppressive and ruthless as the other leaders of that time. Kronstadt was mainly his doing. That he got murdered by Stalin isn't proof of his value as a human being or fighter for humanity.

Sterben · February 25, 2015 at 10:36 pm

This is true, but on the other hand he did try to keep Stalin out of power; one the few that tried. Yes he was oppressive and ruthless in many contexts, in our standards out culture he was. If look at the times though, he had be ruthless. To play in the early U.S.S.R power struggles you had to be rough and tough. Although I do give Stalin the credit for taking a large portion of the Nazi's military force and able to survive. Stalin's red army was mostly the ones who defeated Hitler's armies in Europe, Only to be screwed out of his arrangement with the Americans and the British for help to rebuild after the war was won. Trueman and Churchill was a backstabber in all rights to Stalin, he takes most of the damages and get's no aid in return for his help to bring down one the most evil empires to ever exist on this earth. If you look at from a Russian stand point, Trotsky was almost a J.F.K to them I think.

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