Evolution Theory - please show the proofs

[Shell B]

I'm just being a smartass: The "birthers" that believe this sort of thing are presented with proof of his birth on US soil and they just say the birth certificate is a forgery. Same thing with the OP-- you can present all the evidence in the world of evolution, but the evidence is dismissed out of hand. You can't reason with unreason.

I kind of figured as much. I wasn't sure if you had hopped in the wrong thread, though. I saw an Obama thread floating around here somewhere.

[Oldandeasilyconfused]

Evolution Theory - please show the proofs.

Why?

Is Darwin out of your intellectual depth? If not, get off your arse and read it yourself.


Or is that having no understanding of evolution that you believe evolution= atheism? It doesn't.

In fact the Catholic church and most other Christian churches accept evolution as unproblematic.

[Minimalist]

please explain what is so funny. i would like to laugh a little , too.

A straw man argument is an informal fallacy based on misrepresentation of an opponent's position.

As you don't know shit about evolutionary theory anything you say qualifies.

[Zen Badger]

This will be, just to begin with. After you present conclusive proof that Evolution explains all this without any doubt left, we continue with some more questions.

And if we can't be bothered? what are you planning on doing then?

I was tempted to tell you take your imperious attitude and fuck off but that would be impolite.

So instead I give you whale evolution, the most complete fossil record we currently have.

http://www.squidoo.com/whale-evolution

And politely suggest that you go and fucking read some real books on the subject.

Instead of the puerile mindless propaganda that Answersingenesis etc constantly churn out like turds from a backed up toilet.

[leo-rcc]

NoGodaloud, what is it that scares you so much about the theory of evolution that you need to lash out to it so badly?

As some have said before, there are plenty of scientists who are also Christians (and Muslims, and Hindu, and Buddhists) that don't lose their faith and accept the Theory of Evolution as the best explanation we have for the diversity of life. They have done what they always have done, examine the evidence and accept the results of decades of research.

Now if you truly want to look at the evidence for the Theory of Evolution, I'd suggest reading a book like Prothero's "Evolution, what the fossils say and why it matters", or "The greatest show on Earth" by Richard Dawkins. Most that know me here in this forum know I'm not a huge fan of Dawkins as a philosopher but as a biologist he has my utmost respect.

I'm not trying to change your mind here, all I'm asking is that you at least look at the very thing you are fighting so hard against first. That way if you do reject the ToE, you at least have a basis on your own, and are not just Ken Ham's puppet.

[Eilonnwy]

http://www.talkorigins.org/

Great resource for evolution facts and arguments that is specifically designed to refute common misguided creationist arguments.

Included is this article: 29+ Evidences for Macroevolution
The Scientific Case for Common Descent
http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/comdesc/

Read. Learn.

[Tiberius]

When will you realize, there isn't anything even close to "proof" in science! Scientific proof doesn't exist; what does exist is scientific evidence. The ideas and theories (yes, the two are different) that look at the facts of science and try to explain them. If you want to look at the evidence behind the theory of evolution, then all you have to do is click any of the numerous links that my fellow forum-goers have kindly provided for you.

[Entropist]

"Usually, even a non-Christian knows something about the earth, the heavens, and the other elements of this world, about the motion and orbit of the stars and even their size and relative positions, about the predictable eclipses of the sun and moon, the cycles of the years and the seasons, about the kinds of animals, shrubs, stones, and so forth, and this knowledge he holds to as being certain from reason and experience. Now, it is a disgraceful and dangerous thing for an infidel to hear a Christian, presumably giving the meaning of Holy Scripture, talking non-sense on these topics; and we should take all means to prevent such an embarrassing situation, in which people show up vast ignorance in a Christian and laugh it to scorn. The shame is not so much that an ignorant individual is derided, but that people outside the household of the faith think our sacred writers held such opinions, and, to the great loss of those for whose salvation we toil, the writers of our Scripture are criticized and rejected as unlearned men. If they find a Christian mistaken in a field which they themselves know well and hear him maintaining his foolish opinions about our books, how are they going to believe those books in matters concerning the resurrection of the dead, the hope of eternal life, and the kingdom of heaven, when they think their pages are full of falsehoods on facts which they themselves have learnt from experience and the light of reason?" Augustine, from The Literal Meaning of Genesis

Ironic that this treatise by Augustine, written in the fifth century CE, is (at least in this respect) more sophisticated than an absurd reactionary ideology that came about in the 1930s.

[HeyItsZeus]

I'm sorry. I'm too lazy to find you links to evolutionary facts so stop asking and find it yourself. You obviously have access to a computer. Anyways, whatever proof is given to you you will deny, correct?

[leo-rcc]

I'm sorry. I'm too lazy to find you links to evolutionary facts so stop asking and find it yourself. You obviously have access to a computer. Anyways, whatever proof is given to you you will deny, correct?

evidence.