Spooky coincidences.

[thesummerqueen]

[clapping hands delightedly] this is IMMENSELY entertaining!

It's like Jerry Springer with crucifixes and big words!

Nothing on you, Void - glad you posted this, it's awesome, isn't it? Took up an entire morning when I should have been doing accounting instead. I've always wondered exactly HOW we'd communicate if there were intelligent aliens...

[fr0d0]

Historicity is of little interest to you because you don't actually care whether or not what you believe is true, or even representative of the actual beliefs of the early Christians. You don't see a problem what believing a whole bunch of shit that Jesus never said?

Exaggeration is it? Congratulations on yet another bare assertion.

No, the historicity isn't the focus of the religion, but you can't seem to get that. Yeah there's loads to talk about on the subject, and I told you it doesn't interest me. Funny you shy away from talking to people who actually are.

My assertion isn't bare because having entertained your bullying I addressed a point and found it to be so. I know and listen to many people who spend their lives studying the historicity and am quite confident in the validity of it.

Now if your not interested in a discussion, please go away.

[A Theist]

Gliese 581e is 20 light years from earth, 500,000 years away if traveling there with our swiftest space craft. Everything about the planet, its atmosphere, whether or not conditions there can support life, whether or not it has liquid water, at this point is just speculation. No guarantees.

Here's more on Gliese 581e...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QHVWB2pY1...re=related

[downbeatplumb]

The planets only 20 light years away, thats next door by space terms.

This could be interesting!

[A Theist]

The planets only 20 light years away, thats next door by space terms.

This could be interesting!

...and 500,000 years away with our fastest space vessel. Half a million years.

The speculation is intriguing.

[downbeatplumb]

The planets only 20 light years away, thats next door by space terms.

This could be interesting!

...and 500,000 years away with our fastest space vessel. Half a million years.

The speculation is intriguing.

True, but our current design space vessels are only designed for relatively short hops.
This does not mean that they are the fastest we can build.
I've seen that a solar sail powered craft could be propelled to a significant percentage of light speed because of the constant accelaeration.

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In the 1980s, Robert Forward proposed two beam-powered propulsion schemes using either lasers or masers to push giant sails to a significant fraction of the speed of light

[Ashendant]

The planets only 20 light years away, thats next door by space terms.

This could be interesting!

...and 500,000 years away with our fastest space vessel. Half a million years.

The speculation is intriguing.

Doesn't mean we can't invent ways of talking to them

After checking, it appears that you are right. I stand corrected.
I'm still waiting to see what AngelThMan has to say about this. If I recall, he has some very serious doubts over life on other worlds. To find life forms on another world (potentially sapient) I wonder how that would affect religion as a whole here?

Sorry it's just people saying sentient=intelligence, pisses me off and made my life-long objective to correct the most people i can on this shit, the only reason i loath science fiction for creating this horrible misconception

[Anomalocaris]

. To find life forms on another world (potentially sapient) I wonder how that would affect religion as a whole here?

The shock will cause the holy trinity to undergo parthenogenesis, resulting in holy quadranity - the father, the son, the holy ghost, and the holy silicon based green octopus.

[theVOID]

No, the historicity isn't the focus of the religion, but you can't seem to get that. Yeah there's loads to talk about on the subject, and I told you it doesn't interest me. Funny you shy away from talking to people who actually are.

I haven't shied away from talking to people about it at all, you continually make shit up, are you a pathological liar?

I find it amusing that although you believe that god was incarnate on earth 2000 years ago and said some really important things, you seem to have no interest in uncovering what he actually said. I must then ask, what is the value of these words to you anyway? Or maybe you just don't care cause God's all up in your head telling you how it all works?

All you seem to want to do is satisfy what you already believe, and in the process you throw away everything that could possibly contest your views as "ignorance".

My assertion isn't bare because having entertained your bullying I addressed a point and found it to be so. I know and listen to many people who spend their lives studying the historicity and am quite confident in the validity of it.

Confident in people who think that the bible is historically accurate? They don't really exist buddy, not in the real of professional historians. Maybe you want to go read a rebuttal to your Lee Strobel 'historical bible' bullshit.

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Now if your not interested in a discussion, please go away.

Not interested in discussion? That must be why I'm challenging all of your bullshit huh? because i don't want a discussion *rolls eyes*

[fr0d0]

Yeah shied away. You want to discuss this with me and constantly badger and bicker on at me about it... yet we can all see me keep telling you I'm not interested. How many times do I have to say it?? I've told you before - go find someone who's interested. I know loads of people. Is it beyond you to go do the same??

I am interested in what was actually said, and I'm confident that what we have is the best we've got. There is nothing discovered yet which changes anything. when there is, I'll be sure to hear about it and change my mind accordingly. I certainly don't need weak insipid illogical cynical proven to be false skepticim from anybody.

Professional historians back up what I'm saying. Please don't try to poison the well by including what you know I would find ridiculous into my camp. Pick on the literalists all you like... I'd be on your side, along with the vast majority of Christians.

Yes - not interested in discussion - only forcing your own agenda. Once more... go away.