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RE: MARRIAGE EQUALITY NATIONWIDE
July 1, 2015 at 10:08 pm
(July 1, 2015 at 9:51 pm)Mothonis Wrote: (July 1, 2015 at 9:29 pm)Pyrrho Wrote: That depends on what one does and how one votes. In the UK, a whole lot of people voted the winners into office. One is responsible for how one votes, and one's part in such processes.
As a secondary point, if it is wrong to feel guilt for what one's society does, it is wrong to feel pride in it as well. In my opinion, though, how one should feel about things is directly related to what one has done, and what one has not done, regarding the particular source of potential shame or pride.
I get where your coming from.but regarding voting,its impossible to tell how honest a person is unless you know them personaly.if you voted for a bigot you should feel guilty.but if you didn`t you should not feel bad.I do agree they shouldn't feel pride either.all one can do is hope for the best.
Most politicians have a public history that one can examine. That is, you can read their past claims and read about their past actions. You can tell that some people are liars from looking at their past claims and what they have actually done. And if they have done what they say they will do, then that is an indication of honesty. You don't need to personally know the person for this.
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RE: MARRIAGE EQUALITY NATIONWIDE
July 2, 2015 at 11:13 am
(July 1, 2015 at 5:09 pm)Pyrrho Wrote: (June 30, 2015 at 11:21 am)NoraBrimstone Wrote: I never thought the US would have nationwide marriage equaity before my own country. I feel kinda dirty.
You should feel dirty. But you can work on changing things in your country. There are probably organizations in your country working on this issue, and they may be able to use volunteers, or monetary contributions.
Also, being behind on one issue does not make one behind on other issues. So you need not feel totally dirty. As long as you vote for and work for things improving.
Oh yes. There are organisations, and I help where I can. We have successfully achieved marriage equality in England, Wales & Scotland already (except for some trans* issues that we're still working on). It's just that pesky little shit, NI, that won't play ball. They're too determined to maintain the superior status of heterosexual, cisgendered, caucasian, Christian men. They won't even entertain the idea of not actively oppressing everyone else.
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RE: MARRIAGE EQUALITY NATIONWIDE
July 2, 2015 at 11:45 am
Nuke Derry.
The granting of a pardon is an imputation of guilt, and the acceptance a confession of it.
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RE: MARRIAGE EQUALITY NATIONWIDE
July 2, 2015 at 10:28 pm
The granting of a pardon is an imputation of guilt, and the acceptance a confession of it.
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RE: MARRIAGE EQUALITY NATIONWIDE
July 2, 2015 at 10:30 pm
It is finally legal and I have no one to marry. I figured I had a few more years to find someone.
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RE: MARRIAGE EQUALITY NATIONWIDE
July 2, 2015 at 10:34 pm
(July 2, 2015 at 10:30 pm)Kitan Wrote: It is finally legal and I have no one to marry. I figured I had a few more years to find someone.
Move to Australia. It's not legal in Oz, yet.
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RE: MARRIAGE EQUALITY NATIONWIDE
July 2, 2015 at 11:01 pm
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(July 2, 2015 at 10:34 pm)Beccs Wrote: (July 2, 2015 at 10:30 pm)Kitan Wrote: It is finally legal and I have no one to marry. I figured I had a few more years to find someone.
Move to Australia. It's not legal in Oz, yet.
I give the marriage equality in Australia becoming a reality a year at most. Since I don't believe Tony Abbott will still be Prime Minister by the time of the next election.
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RE: MARRIAGE EQUALITY NATIONWIDE
July 2, 2015 at 11:53 pm
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(July 2, 2015 at 10:30 pm)Kitan Wrote: It is finally legal and I have no one to marry. I figured I had a few more years to find someone.
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RE: MARRIAGE EQUALITY NATIONWIDE
July 3, 2015 at 11:49 am
(July 2, 2015 at 10:30 pm)Kitan Wrote: It is finally legal and I have no one to marry. I figured I had a few more years to find someone.
Just because one can marry, that is not a reason to marry. But it is nice to be able to do so, if one wishes.
Anyway, gay or straight, it is not a good idea to rush into marriage. Think about whether it is something that you really want, and, of course, one must also find someone one regards as suitable. Frankly, I thought I would never marry when I was young, not because I disliked the idea, but because I am very particular about the person to whom I would be legally glued. It was legal for me to marry for over a decade before I married.
In the U.S., many people think about the romantic aspects of marriage, but do not properly consider the practical aspects of it. In some states, one is legally liable for all of the debts of one's spouse, so being bad at managing money can be a good reason to not marry someone. I recommend not marrying someone if it would make you afraid to move across a state line. And, of course, do you trust the person to make medical decisions for you in the event of you being unable to do so? That, again, can be a reason to not marry someone. (In my case, I want the plug to be pulled as soon as it is legal to do so [sooner, really], but some people want to drag out their deaths for as long as possible, making their end of life a living hell, and so you need to consider whether your prospective spouse will honor your wishes.)
The upshot is, I recommend that you be very careful about your choice of marriage partner, if, indeed, you really want to get married at all. A bad marriage can really wreck your happiness for many years, and possibly your entire life, so make sure you get to know the person very well before you get married.
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RE: MARRIAGE EQUALITY NATIONWIDE
July 3, 2015 at 9:40 pm
I think they were just throwing shade Pyrrho, not being serious  Still your post is most insightful 
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