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What do you know today that you didn't know yesterday?
RE: What do you know today that you didn't know yesterday?
it is possibly for an average human to sustain powered flight by flapping wings attached to his or her arms on Saturn’s moon Titan, in the manner of Icarus. This is because Titan’s atmosphere is 50 % denser than Earth’s while Titan’s surface gravity is only 1/10 that of the earth.
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(November 28, 2023 at 1:15 pm)Anomalocaris Wrote: it is possibly for an average human to sustain powered flight by flapping wings attached to his or her arms on Saturn’s moon Titan, in the manner of Icarus.     This is because Titan’s atmosphere is 50 % denser than Earth’s while Titan’s surface gravity is only 1/10 that of the earth.

Does that take into account the mass of the breathing apparatus and thermal gear?

Boru
‘But it does me no injury for my neighbour to say there are twenty gods or no gods. It neither picks my pocket nor breaks my leg.’ - Thomas Jefferson
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RE: What do you know today that you didn't know yesterday?
(November 28, 2023 at 3:53 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote:
(November 28, 2023 at 1:15 pm)Anomalocaris Wrote: it is possibly for an average human to sustain powered flight by flapping wings attached to his or her arms on Saturn’s moon Titan, in the manner of Icarus.     This is because Titan’s atmosphere is 50 % denser than Earth’s while Titan’s surface gravity is only 1/10 that of the earth.

Does that take into account the mass of the breathing apparatus and thermal gear?

Boru

Don’t know for sure, but judging from what the author explicitly took into consideration in evaluating other similarly outlandish scenarios, I suspect he did take those into account.
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RE: What do you know today that you didn't know yesterday?
(November 28, 2023 at 1:15 pm)Anomalocaris Wrote: it is possibly for an average human to sustain powered flight by flapping wings attached to his or her arms on Saturn’s moon Titan, in the manner of Icarus.     This is because Titan’s atmosphere is 50 % denser than Earth’s while Titan’s surface gravity is only 1/10 that of the earth.

And it's methane, so you can light a fart and achieve orbit.
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RE: What do you know today that you didn't know yesterday?
(November 28, 2023 at 6:52 pm)Gawdzilla Sama Wrote:
(November 28, 2023 at 1:15 pm)Anomalocaris Wrote: it is possibly for an average human to sustain powered flight by flapping wings attached to his or her arms on Saturn’s moon Titan, in the manner of Icarus.     This is because Titan’s atmosphere is 50 % denser than Earth’s while Titan’s surface gravity is only 1/10 that of the earth.

And it's methane, so you can light a fart and achieve orbit.

Nope, not nearly enough methane or oxygen on Titan for that.

Boru
‘But it does me no injury for my neighbour to say there are twenty gods or no gods. It neither picks my pocket nor breaks my leg.’ - Thomas Jefferson
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RE: What do you know today that you didn't know yesterday?
(November 28, 2023 at 7:01 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote:
(November 28, 2023 at 6:52 pm)Gawdzilla Sama Wrote: And it's methane, so you can light a fart and achieve orbit.

Nope, not nearly enough methane or oxygen on Titan for that.

Boru

BYOO?
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(November 28, 2023 at 8:56 pm)Gawdzilla Sama Wrote:
(November 28, 2023 at 7:01 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: Nope, not nearly enough methane or oxygen on Titan for that.

Boru

BYOO?


I think you’d have to.

Boru
‘But it does me no injury for my neighbour to say there are twenty gods or no gods. It neither picks my pocket nor breaks my leg.’ - Thomas Jefferson
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James Cameron's nickname for Edward Furlong on the set of T2 was Special Ed.
teachings of the Bible are so muddled and self-contradictory that it was possible for Christians to happily burn heretics alive for five long centuries. It was even possible for the most venerated patriarchs of the Church, like St. Augustine and St. Thomas Aquinas, to conclude that heretics should be tortured (Augustine) or killed outright (Aquinas). Martin Luther and John Calvin advocated the wholesale murder of heretics, apostates, Jews, and witches. - Sam Harris, "Letter To A Christian Nation"
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RE: What do you know today that you didn't know yesterday?
(November 28, 2023 at 9:20 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote:
(November 28, 2023 at 8:56 pm)Gawdzilla Sama Wrote: BYOO?


I think you’d have to.

Boru

There are literally LAKES of methane on Titan.

Relevant: Anybody else read John Varley's Thunder and Lightning books?
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RE: What do you know today that you didn't know yesterday?
but no free oxygen whatsoever to enable the methane to combust.

you will have to take the oxygen with you down to titan surface, but after you set up your oxygen tank, and you drop your space suit pants to get ready for that good fart, the fact that Titans atmosphere is dense and colder than liquid nitrogen will probably freeze your butt hole solid and a cut off your gaseous fuel supply before ignition
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