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Hypocrite Liberals imposing their beliefs
RE: Hypocrite Liberals imposing their beliefs
I am unfortunately agreeing with ChadWooters on this one. The only reason for the state to intervene and regulate the market is a compelling (usually economic) interest, such as preventing excessive pollution, monopolies and externalities - It is not the government's business to regulate who you can and if you can or can't do business with someone. Public businesses are still privately owned by individual people and voluntary trade is based on the notion that it is - Duh - Voluntary, so forcing any trade for any reason is contrary to the most basic rules of a [reasonably] free market where voluntary association and trade are strongly allowed.

If a nazi requests a cake with a swastika, do I need to bake the cake, or can I refuse and just say "no I can't do that"? Well the reason to not bake a cake to nazis is the same to not bake a cake for every other group in society - You don't like them, and it is your right to not like them or hate them as much as you can. If an atheist started a business to serve only atheists and refused to service religious people, I would be perfectly ok with it. Of course, all of this doesn't mean society won't react and you are responsible for the consequences of your position and actions - If people make the choice to not do business with you anymore it is a consequence, just like if people decide to boycott your business because you're a douchebag.

But forcing people to do voluntary trades? Nah, I don't like the idea. It's my establishment, I can do whatever I want with it. I can close and open, schedule and work like I please, for as long as I don't endanger other people's fundamental rights. I have a different position when it comes to firing people because you need a just cause to fire someone without due monetary compensation - But an employment contract, given its importance and vitality for the worker's life is not comparable to a cake request that can be done in any bakery aside from that one. Why anyone would want to voluntarily file a lawsuit because of a cake to hurt the local economy is out of my imperfect intellect's reach.

Of course, the law is the law and it must be followed, but that doesn't mean the law is correct. The government has interest in allowing and promoting business expansion and profit - This means that the government should allow mechanisms and principles that provide for a healthy economic growth and prosperity. A law forcing you to serve people is essentially a turn off for some investors and businessmen/women, restrictions on your right to free trade is a form of economic suicide for any caring government.

TL;DR - Let the hateful people expose themselves and boycott them - You don't need a law to force them to do business with you - Just like it is more desirable for bigots to expose themselves with free speech rather than seeing them facing censorship - How is this any better (ethically) than a hate speech law? the only difference is that in the latter you are not allowed to do or say something, while in the former you are forced to do something
Whoever fights monsters should see to it that in the process he does not become a monster. And if you gaze long enough into an abyss, the abyss will gaze back into you




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Hypocrite Liberals imposing their beliefs - by omnomnom - July 21, 2015 at 1:54 pm
RE: Hypocrite Liberals imposing their beliefs - by Nope - July 21, 2015 at 2:07 pm
RE: Hypocrite Liberals imposing their beliefs - by Cato - July 21, 2015 at 6:31 pm
Hypocrite Liberals imposing their beliefs - by KUSA - July 21, 2015 at 6:57 pm
RE: Hypocrite Liberals imposing their beliefs - by Chas - July 22, 2015 at 9:53 am
RE: Hypocrite Liberals imposing their beliefs - by abaris - July 22, 2015 at 11:08 am
RE: Hypocrite Liberals imposing their beliefs - by Chad32 - July 22, 2015 at 12:40 pm
RE: Hypocrite Liberals imposing their beliefs - by c172 - July 22, 2015 at 7:11 am
RE: Hypocrite Liberals imposing their beliefs - by Regina - July 22, 2015 at 11:14 am
RE: Hypocrite Liberals imposing their beliefs - by brewer - July 22, 2015 at 12:10 pm
RE: Hypocrite Liberals imposing their beliefs - by Regina - July 22, 2015 at 10:46 pm
RE: Hypocrite Liberals imposing their beliefs - by Dystopia - July 22, 2015 at 11:10 pm
RE: Hypocrite Liberals imposing their beliefs - by Cato - July 23, 2015 at 6:47 pm
RE: Hypocrite Liberals imposing their beliefs - by Cato - July 23, 2015 at 6:33 am
RE: Hypocrite Liberals imposing their beliefs - by Cato - July 23, 2015 at 8:02 am
RE: Hypocrite Liberals imposing their beliefs - by Tonus - July 23, 2015 at 10:42 am
RE: Hypocrite Liberals imposing their beliefs - by Cato - July 23, 2015 at 10:04 am
RE: Hypocrite Liberals imposing their beliefs - by Cato - July 23, 2015 at 11:18 am
RE: Hypocrite Liberals imposing their beliefs - by Rahul - July 23, 2015 at 11:28 am
RE: Hypocrite Liberals imposing their beliefs - by Cato - July 23, 2015 at 12:15 pm
Hypocrite Liberals imposing their beliefs - by omnomnom - July 23, 2015 at 12:31 pm
RE: Hypocrite Liberals imposing their beliefs - by Cato - July 23, 2015 at 11:26 pm
RE: Hypocrite Liberals imposing their beliefs - by Cato - July 24, 2015 at 12:13 am
RE: Hypocrite Liberals imposing their beliefs - by Cato - July 24, 2015 at 12:20 am
RE: Hypocrite Liberals imposing their beliefs - by Cato - July 24, 2015 at 1:04 am



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