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Hypocrite Liberals imposing their beliefs
RE: Hypocrite Liberals imposing their beliefs
Quote:Except America has a colorful history where people were refused service. Hence, we have laws that if you own a public business, you cannot refuse service to anyone based on their race, religion, creed, etc. The question is only whether or not LGBT should be a protected class or not.

The question really is about whether or not baking a cake for a wedding is in any way endorsing the wedding at all. If that were the case, a Christian baker shouldn't bake a cake for a pagan wedding, a Hindu wedding, etc. Do they think at all about endorsing the wedding otherwise? Do you think these bakers endorse or tacitly approve of every wedding they have ever baked a cake for? If I were to use a service for my wedding, and we have a religion free ceremony officiated by a Pastafarian minister, are they implicitly approving of my wedding? Should they be able to refuse service to me because I am an atheist?

I have been refused service. I walked into a hole in the wall restaurant in the deepest backwoods of Tennessee on the advice of a friend. To the hillbilly fuck that told me to get out, I looked like a "towel-head," and I wasn't going to blow up his restaurant. No one should EVER have to be kicked out of or refused service based on their race, religion, sexual orientation, etc. If you open up a public business, you don't get to choose who sits at the counter.
I think it is a horrible thing (to be refused service because of race, etc.) but I'm only saying bigots should be allowed to expose their bigotry, it is best for all of us. Most countries have those anti-discrimination laws, and I agree with creating protected classes, but being one doesn't mean you get to demand that every economic trade, regardless of how small or insignificant it is, must be fulfilled just because you say so.

If one of your rights is at stake I think service shouldn't be refused - Of course, if you enter a hospital people can't tell you that they won't heal you because you're gay, or black, or trans, etc. But if it's a service that is not fundamental for survival and you can get it pretty much anywhere else then I don't see why I should force economic transactions. I don't want people to think I'm condoning Christianity - I despise people discriminating because "religion says so" and I'd happily boycott a business owned by them, but I still need to be coherent and defend their right to bigots. When rights collide the stronger or most important one prevails - it seems to me that even if you hate religion, freedom of religion obviously beats the right to have a cake baked that you can request everywhere else.
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Hypocrite Liberals imposing their beliefs - by omnomnom - July 21, 2015 at 1:54 pm
RE: Hypocrite Liberals imposing their beliefs - by Nope - July 21, 2015 at 2:07 pm
RE: Hypocrite Liberals imposing their beliefs - by Cato - July 21, 2015 at 6:31 pm
Hypocrite Liberals imposing their beliefs - by KUSA - July 21, 2015 at 6:57 pm
RE: Hypocrite Liberals imposing their beliefs - by Chas - July 22, 2015 at 9:53 am
RE: Hypocrite Liberals imposing their beliefs - by abaris - July 22, 2015 at 11:08 am
RE: Hypocrite Liberals imposing their beliefs - by Chad32 - July 22, 2015 at 12:40 pm
RE: Hypocrite Liberals imposing their beliefs - by c172 - July 22, 2015 at 7:11 am
RE: Hypocrite Liberals imposing their beliefs - by Regina - July 22, 2015 at 11:14 am
RE: Hypocrite Liberals imposing their beliefs - by brewer - July 22, 2015 at 12:10 pm
RE: Hypocrite Liberals imposing their beliefs - by Regina - July 22, 2015 at 10:46 pm
RE: Hypocrite Liberals imposing their beliefs - by Cato - July 23, 2015 at 6:47 pm
RE: Hypocrite Liberals imposing their beliefs - by Cato - July 23, 2015 at 6:33 am
RE: Hypocrite Liberals imposing their beliefs - by Cato - July 23, 2015 at 8:02 am
RE: Hypocrite Liberals imposing their beliefs - by Tonus - July 23, 2015 at 10:42 am
RE: Hypocrite Liberals imposing their beliefs - by Cato - July 23, 2015 at 10:04 am
RE: Hypocrite Liberals imposing their beliefs - by Dystopia - July 23, 2015 at 10:22 am
RE: Hypocrite Liberals imposing their beliefs - by Cato - July 23, 2015 at 11:18 am
RE: Hypocrite Liberals imposing their beliefs - by Rahul - July 23, 2015 at 11:28 am
RE: Hypocrite Liberals imposing their beliefs - by Cato - July 23, 2015 at 12:15 pm
Hypocrite Liberals imposing their beliefs - by omnomnom - July 23, 2015 at 12:31 pm
RE: Hypocrite Liberals imposing their beliefs - by Cato - July 23, 2015 at 11:26 pm
RE: Hypocrite Liberals imposing their beliefs - by Cato - July 24, 2015 at 12:13 am
RE: Hypocrite Liberals imposing their beliefs - by Cato - July 24, 2015 at 12:20 am
RE: Hypocrite Liberals imposing their beliefs - by Cato - July 24, 2015 at 1:04 am



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