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The Statler Waldorf Balcony
RE: The Statler Waldorf Balcony
Quote:Using observed time it does travel exactly how I said. Using calculated time it travels exactly how you said it does. You should know though that it is impossible to meausre the one way speed of light. If you can devise an experiment that does this you will win yourself a nobel prize my friend.

http://www.phys.ncku.edu.tw/mirrors/phys...ure_c.html

The first successful measurement of c was made by Olaus Roemer in 1676. He noticed that the time between the eclipses of the moons of Jupiter was less as the distance away from Earth is decreasing than when it is increasing. He correctly surmised that this is due to the varying length of time it takes for light to travel from Jupiter to Earth as the distance changes. He obtained a value equivalent to 214,000 km/s which was very approximate because planetary distances were not accurately known at that time.

In 1728 James Bradley made another estimate by observing stellar aberration, being the apparent displacement of stars due to the motion of the Earth around the Sun. He observed a star in Draco and found that its apparent position changed during the year. All stellar positions are affected equally in this way. This distinguishes the effect from parallax which affects nearby stars more noticeably. A useful analogy to help understand aberration is to imagine the effect of motion on the angle at which rain falls. If you stand still in the rain when there is no wind it comes down vertically on your head. If you run through the rain it appears to come at you from an angle and hit you on the front. Bradley measured this angle for starlight. Knowing the speed of the Earth around the Sun he found a value for the speed of light of 301,000 km/s.

The first measurement of c on Earth was by Armand Fizeau in 1849. He used a beam of light reflected from a mirror 8 km away. The beam passed through the gaps between teeth of a rapidly rotating wheel. The speed of the wheel was increased until the returning light passed through the next gap and could be seen. Then c was calculated to be 315,000 km/s. Leon Foucault improved on this a year later by using rotating mirrors and got the much more accurate answer of 298,000 km/s. His technique was good enough to confirm that light travels slower in water than in air.

After Maxwell published his theory of electromagnetism it became possible to calculate the speed of light indirectly from the magnetic permeability and electric permitivity of free space. This was first done by Weber and Kohlrausch in 1857. In 1907 Rosa and Dorsey obtained 299,788 km/s in this way. It was the most accurate value at that time.

Many other methods were employed to improve accuracy further. It soon became necessary to correct for the refractive index of air. In 1958 Froome had the value of 299,792.5 km/s using a microwave interferometer and a Kerr cell shutter. After 1970 the development of lasers with very high spectral stability and accurate caesium clocks made even better measurements possible. Up until then the changing definition of the metre had always kept ahead of the accuracy in measurements of the speed of light. Then the point was reached where the speed of light was known to within an error of plus or minus 1 m/s. It became more practical to fix the value of c in the definition of the metre and use atomic clocks and lasers to measure accurate distances instead.
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The Statler Waldorf Balcony - by Statler Waldorf - October 15, 2010 at 4:51 pm
RE: The Statler Waldorf Balcony - by Darwinian - October 15, 2010 at 4:57 pm
RE: The Statler Waldorf Balcony - by Statler Waldorf - October 15, 2010 at 5:10 pm
RE: The Statler Waldorf Balcony - by Thor - October 21, 2010 at 12:01 pm
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RE: The Statler Waldorf Balcony - by The Omnissiunt One - October 15, 2010 at 5:41 pm
RE: The Statler Waldorf Balcony - by Statler Waldorf - October 18, 2010 at 3:04 pm
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RE: The Statler Waldorf Balcony - by Ace Otana - October 18, 2010 at 5:51 pm
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RE: The Statler Waldorf Balcony - by Statler Waldorf - October 18, 2010 at 7:21 pm
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RE: The Statler Waldorf Balcony - by Statler Waldorf - October 18, 2010 at 3:50 pm
RE: The Statler Waldorf Balcony - by Thor - October 18, 2010 at 5:49 pm
RE: The Statler Waldorf Balcony - by TheDarkestOfAngels - October 18, 2010 at 8:07 pm
RE: The Statler Waldorf Balcony - by Statler Waldorf - October 18, 2010 at 8:47 pm
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RE: The Statler Waldorf Balcony - by Statler Waldorf - October 18, 2010 at 3:58 pm
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RE: The Statler Waldorf Balcony - by Minimalist - October 16, 2010 at 8:36 pm
RE: The Statler Waldorf Balcony - by Anomalocaris - October 16, 2010 at 8:41 pm
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RE: The Statler Waldorf Balcony - by Cego_Colher - October 17, 2010 at 12:36 pm
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RE: The Statler Waldorf Balcony - by Statler Waldorf - October 18, 2010 at 5:33 pm
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RE: The Statler Waldorf Balcony - by Statler Waldorf - October 19, 2010 at 8:57 pm
RE: The Statler Waldorf Balcony - by orogenicman - October 19, 2010 at 9:04 pm
RE: The Statler Waldorf Balcony - by Rev. Rye - October 19, 2010 at 9:41 pm
RE: The Statler Waldorf Balcony - by Rev. Rye - October 18, 2010 at 10:30 pm
RE: The Statler Waldorf Balcony - by Minimalist - October 18, 2010 at 11:38 pm
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RE: The Statler Waldorf Balcony - by Minimalist - October 19, 2010 at 12:06 am
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RE: The Statler Waldorf Balcony - by Existentialist - October 19, 2010 at 2:19 pm
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RE: The Statler Waldorf Balcony - by Statler Waldorf - October 19, 2010 at 9:10 pm
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RE: The Statler Waldorf Balcony - by Statler Waldorf - October 19, 2010 at 9:46 pm
RE: The Statler Waldorf Balcony - by orogenicman - October 19, 2010 at 11:27 pm
RE: The Statler Waldorf Balcony - by Anomalocaris - October 20, 2010 at 1:03 am
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RE: The Statler Waldorf Balcony - by Ace Otana - October 20, 2010 at 5:47 pm
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RE: The Statler Waldorf Balcony - by Statler Waldorf - October 20, 2010 at 7:16 pm
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RE: The Statler Waldorf Balcony - by Sam - October 21, 2010 at 6:02 am
RE: The Statler Waldorf Balcony - by Statler Waldorf - October 21, 2010 at 3:22 pm
RE: The Statler Waldorf Balcony - by Autumnlicious - October 20, 2010 at 12:25 am
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RE: The Statler Waldorf Balcony - by orogenicman - October 20, 2010 at 11:12 am
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RE: The Statler Waldorf Balcony - by Statler Waldorf - October 20, 2010 at 2:51 pm
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RE: The Statler Waldorf Balcony - by Autumnlicious - October 20, 2010 at 3:53 pm
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RE: The Statler Waldorf Balcony - by Statler Waldorf - October 21, 2010 at 3:50 pm
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RE: The Statler Waldorf Balcony - by Anomalocaris - October 20, 2010 at 7:50 pm
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RE: The Statler Waldorf Balcony - by orogenicman - October 20, 2010 at 9:05 pm
RE: The Statler Waldorf Balcony - by TheDarkestOfAngels - October 20, 2010 at 10:58 pm
RE: The Statler Waldorf Balcony - by Statler Waldorf - October 21, 2010 at 2:55 pm
RE: The Statler Waldorf Balcony - by Zen Badger - October 21, 2010 at 6:16 am
RE: The Statler Waldorf Balcony - by rjh4 - October 21, 2010 at 8:46 am
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RE: The Statler Waldorf Balcony - by Statler Waldorf - October 21, 2010 at 6:27 pm
RE: The Statler Waldorf Balcony - by orogenicman - October 21, 2010 at 6:36 pm
RE: The Statler Waldorf Balcony - by Statler Waldorf - October 21, 2010 at 7:18 pm
RE: The Statler Waldorf Balcony - by Sam - October 25, 2010 at 11:25 am
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RE: The Statler Waldorf Balcony - by Statler Waldorf - October 28, 2010 at 9:37 pm
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RE: The Statler Waldorf Balcony - by Statler Waldorf - October 28, 2010 at 8:59 pm
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RE: The Statler Waldorf Balcony - by LastPoet - October 29, 2010 at 6:10 am
RE: The Statler Waldorf Balcony - by Statler Waldorf - November 1, 2010 at 8:03 pm
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RE: The Statler Waldorf Balcony - by Tiberius - November 1, 2010 at 9:23 pm
RE: The Statler Waldorf Balcony - by Thor - November 1, 2010 at 3:55 pm
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RE: The Statler Waldorf Balcony - by KichigaiNeko - October 25, 2010 at 8:14 am
RE: The Statler Waldorf Balcony - by orogenicman - October 28, 2010 at 11:33 pm
RE: The Statler Waldorf Balcony - by Statler Waldorf - October 28, 2010 at 11:58 pm
RE: The Statler Waldorf Balcony - by orogenicman - October 29, 2010 at 12:18 am
RE: The Statler Waldorf Balcony - by Statler Waldorf - November 1, 2010 at 7:25 pm
RE: The Statler Waldorf Balcony - by Dotard - November 1, 2010 at 7:41 pm
RE: The Statler Waldorf Balcony - by Darwinian - October 29, 2010 at 6:36 am
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