Miracle

[Harris]

And the combination of lack of evidence, lack of clarity, and biased speculation leads people to make miracles out of molehills.

Other than giving couple of exceptions based on chance, have you already shown how scientific facts get into Quran?

No, they do not literally hold Air Drones in the sky. The laws of physics do that.

Physical laws are not a matter of chance in a similar way as the instructions to the drones are not a matter of chance.

Harris wrote:
Without wings, wind, or skill no bird can fly. Ostrich is a bird but cannot fly.

Bennyboy wrote:
. . . so God?

“Say: He is Allah, the One and Only;
Allah, the Eternal, Absolute;
He begetteth not, nor is He begotten;

AND THERE IS NONE LIKE UNTO HIM.”

Al Ikhlash (112)
-Verses 1 – 4-

This is goofy talk. Here's your problem. . . you believe that God exists, and that the Quran is a miracle. You cannot demonstrate that God exists, and it is clear to any non-muslim that the Quran is not a miracle. Do you think that spouting on about man's desire to have wings changes either of these simple truths?

Have you already demonstrated with all proper references and evidences how scientific facts get into Quran?

You are confusing "things that happen" with "purpose." That's like saying the purpose of the Earth is to make me go splat! if I jump off a building.

Nature provides certain rules to keep the order in the universe. To a certain extent, you may take them as laws of physics. Nature hurts anything that goes against those rules. To live a normal life you should follow those rules. Whether jumping off from tenth floor or keeping yourself busy in homosexual activities would only bring harm to your own being. However if you will follow those rules then that assures the safety of your normal life. However, in this entire scenario everything would still be a contingent being.

“It is not permitted to the Sun to catch up the Moon, nor can the Night outstrip the Day: Each (just) swims along in (its own) orbit (according to Law).”
Yaa Siin (36)
-Verse 40-

“The sun and the moon follow courses (exactly) computed;”
Ar Rahmaan (55)
-Verse 5-

You state as brute fact things which are not facts. You argue that the universe is supported by God. . . and yet you have no evidence either that the universe is supported or that the God of the Quran is that support. This is the problem with believing in fairy tales-- it must necessarily substitute word salad for simple observation.

Take into consideration the following premises as an alternate to my previous response.

1. Nothing can create its own being.
2. Universe is a created being.
3. All created things are contingent beings.
4. Universe is a contingent being.
5. If Universe does not depend on God then whatever it depends upon is God.

Here's a question for you Harris, one no apologist ever answers.

You apparently have an omnipotent God on your side of the debate. How come you can't convince us atheists of a single thing? Does that make you doubt the strength of your team?
Does he want you to fail?

Do I need a team to convey a fact that sunrises in the East and set in the West?

If you arrogantly reject this information by looking right into my eyes then do I need to worry about that?

My job is to manifest the truth in a conceivable way, which I have done by providing historical and scientific facts and by giving evidences and rational justifications. On the other side, you are doing nothing but proudly rejecting everything without giving proper references and without any sensible reasoning.

Since the start of this post did, any of you guys had ever shown how the scientific facts get into Quran or why there are millions of Hafiz in the world. The answer is no. What maximum you have done so far is made few guesstimates and conjectures and based on your irrational reasoning tried to hide the reality.