RE: The Statler Waldorf Balcony
October 21, 2010 at 2:53 pm
(This post was last modified: October 21, 2010 at 2:55 pm by Autumnlicious.)
(October 21, 2010 at 9:23 am)rjh4 Wrote: Here I disagree. Just because one holds to a certain ideology does not mean that they cannot practice science well. I think Kurt Wise was a Christian and a Creationist when he studied under Gould. If that is the case, then clearly Gould (and whoever else was on Wise's PhD defense board at Harvard) thought Wise could practice good science and have such an ideology.
No. Just no. The scientific process requires objectivity or the closest approach to it possible - an ideology overriding that process damages or removes that objectivity. Claiming that ones ideology will not be reigned in even if all of evidence was against it shows that one is actually willfully and knowingly being decidedly non-objective.
In that case, we have a person whom society has trained to be a scientist not being one.
(October 21, 2010 at 9:23 am)rjh4 Wrote: And certainly no evolutionary scientist has questionable motives, right?
Non-sequitor. You've no evidence to back up your claim for generic evolutionary scientist. Attempted strawman noted.
(October 21, 2010 at 9:23 am)rjh4 Wrote: As I said above, I think you are misconstruing Wise's statement.
No, you're intentionally trying to change Wise's statement into something it is not.
".. if all the evidence in the universe turns against creationism, I would be the first to admit it, but I would still be a creationist because that is what the Word of God seems to indicate"
He'll admit there's evidence then embrace a disproven conclusion. Gee, a lot of objectivity there.
(October 21, 2010 at 9:23 am)rjh4 Wrote: Do you not have the capability of discussing issues with someone who disagrees with you without attempts at belittling them personally?
That would require the one who was belittled to not say things that invite ridicule in the first place.
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